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Follow up to booking a holiday when it's ex mil's birthday bash...how do I reply to her note?

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dragonator · 18/04/2018 17:40

Some of you may remember my thread from last week:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3221102-To-deliberately-book-a-holiday-that-will-prevent-dc-going-to-ex-mils-birthday-extravaganza

The upshot was I booked the holiday and decided not to email mil (kept writing and deleting and didn't send it). Today a letter came addressed to the dc. I recognised the handwriting so opened it Blush (they weren't here) and it contains an invitation for them. It turns out the party is a day later than they told me, so they would have been able to travel down the day after my birthday, but it would still have meant the holiday couldn't have gone ahead as the cheap flights were all the second half of the week. It states 'Daddy will be bringing you down by train on the Friday,' which is irritating as it's not her decision. It also states ‘You will be back at X Sunday evening,’ which is also annoying. Reference is also made to 30 light planes which will be flying people up, which also makes me very glad they aren’t going.

A note to me is also enclosed. I am informed that mil hopes the dc will come as they ‘will greatly enjoy the event,’ which they may or may not have done, and I find the tome strident. She then says that she has worked out it falls on ex’s weekend (it doesn’t as we have different arrangements in the holidays), but if not she hopes I ‘will be able to make adjustments.’ It’s one of those statements that sits uneasily between being an order and a request, veers more towards being an order, and it has really pissed me off. She then states they will be back in plenty of time for school and will be able to celebrate my birthday with me on the day.

The whole thing reads like she knows she’s taking the piss a bit but has decided to brazen it out and present me with reasons why I can’t refuse. It makes me very glad that we’re booked to go away, otherwise I’d be feeling like I had to agree, and I really wouldn’t want to. I’m also annoyed that the letter is addressed to the children – her note acknowledges in a way that there are potential problems with it, so why not communicate with me before the children?

How do I reply – I feel I’d like to ask her not to speak to the children before me in the future, but is it worth the hassle?

OP posts:
Phuquocdreams · 18/04/2018 22:11

God, what a nasty move to book a holiday when you knew ex MIL had a landmark birthday party coming up. I’ve looked at the other thread and I’m not seeing what makes this so excuseable? Just looks pretty petty and spiteful to me.

dragonator · 18/04/2018 22:31

FFS why should I have to run my life around my ex mil?? Why should it be in my head she had a landmark birthday coming up?? What if she hadn't had a party, or had had it on her birthday, rather than a couple of days after mine? I should have kept my diary free for a month in case a woman I used to be related to had a party, even though nothing had been mentioned to me. How completely and utterly ridiculous.

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Crispbutty · 18/04/2018 22:40

I’m intrigued about all the planes as well!??

TipTopTat · 18/04/2018 22:40

Have you emailed her yet op?

Zampa · 18/04/2018 22:44

If you'd genuinely booked the holiday prior to finding out about the party, I wouldn't be criticising you for going away.

However, you booked the holiday despite knowing about the party and it being a milestone birthday.

You've confirmed that the party isn't in your contact time. You've stated you could have gone a week later. There was no reason for you to deliberately prevent your children from going to the party.

A rational adult would have picked up the phone and discussed the matter. That applies to your ex too. He's at fault but I would still argue your action (as opposed to his inaction) is worse.

FuckingMerlot · 18/04/2018 22:56

She may be a woman you used to be related to OP, but your children (the ones who were actually invited to the invitation) are STILL related to her and always will be. She is their GRANDMOTHER.

Bad form booking to go away when you knew about the party. If you didn't think it was bad form you would never have had to ask AIBU in your other thread

fuzzywuzzy · 18/04/2018 22:57

The part isn’t on the MILs birthday and it’s not on the weekend nearest MIL’s birthday it’s around op’s birthday.

OP was told by her kids there was a party on a day which apparently is not the day of the party.

So op didn’t know anything concrete.

Hope you and kids have a fab time on holiday.

FuckingMerlot · 18/04/2018 22:57

*actually invited to the PARTY that should read, not invited to the invitation

Ginger1982 · 18/04/2018 23:06

READ THE ORIGINAL THREAD!!! Jesus that really boils my piss. All the people saying horrible things clearly haven't read it.

GreenTulips · 18/04/2018 23:16

However, you booked the holiday despite knowing about the party

OP didn't know where when what exactly about the party

She could've booked the holiday the week of MIL birthday but she didn't
She could've rung MIL - but as MIL was organising the party it's a bit rude to assume you (or the children) were invited - could've been an adults only party for al OP knew.

The fault here is clearly the DH for knowing about the party and not discussing arrangements and contact - although as it was OPs birthday and she has contact for that - he would know it was a favour rather than a given.

We all browse holidays and then make annikemed decision. I'd rather be away than a party any day for he week.

Just tell her sorry we're away and have a nice time.

Maybe in future they will give you are your plans some consideration and not expect you to drop everything in their favour

jakscrakers · 18/04/2018 23:39

Hope you and the children have a wonderful holiday and relaxing break from normality, forget the naysayers and enjoy yourselves without worrying about EX MIL, she wasnt giving a thought to you nor the grandchildren but to her friends and wanting a good impression with them as puppets to dance for a wonderful grandmother.

Janniohlosty123 · 18/04/2018 23:46

Just email saying I've booked a holiday Sorry, I wasn't informed and would love a bit more notice next time, however I hope you have a great time. Also send her a little something for the kids

Handsfull13 · 18/04/2018 23:50

I wouldn't be contacting the exmil I would contact your ex. Tell him you were just about to contact him about the fact you've booked a holiday with the kids for your bday and you've just received a letter about the party. Your sorry but the kids won't be going as the holiday clashes and if you'd been warned the party was being organised you would have looked at different dates. (Little white lie)
Then after talking to the ex then you can decline the invite to your exmil.

timeisnotaline · 18/04/2018 23:50

Dear people who hadn’t read the other thread, the holiday was 100% planned before op knew about the party. Op can’t afford to book it in the first holiday week instead as it’s mroe expensive (mils birthday is closer to this first week, but she is having her party in ops week, and has hardly given her any notice. Informally telling your young grandchildren is not notice for parental arrangements) the date the dc gave meant they would have had to travel in ops bday. So you think she should have been alone for her birthday, cancelled holiday plans as she couldn’t afford to move them, for a woman who couldn’t be arsed contacting her directly till now? If you count this pissy little note with the invite and ordained schedule sent directly to gc. I wouldn’t count it. But you go on and call the op spiteful and bitchy.
Also, go with fizzys email :)

TwentySmackeroos · 19/04/2018 00:21

Well, what’s done is done, and I think the exMIL has handled it poorly by communicating to the children, but it sounds like the party is scheduled for the DC to travel after the op’s birthday, and on a weekend the exMIL thought - presumably having asked her son - on a contact weekend for him. She has clearly given thought to the children’s travel arrangements, well-intentioned, but without verifying their availability. So, many assumptions made on her part.

But milestone birthdays, and family get-together and time with cousins are important, to me at least. The children will be absent and enquired about, and it will be noticed and remembered. The exh is the villain of the piece, but I feel the op missed the opportunity to make a preemptive strike and email last Friday to say the party clashes with her own birthday, contact time, and planned holiday, prior to receiving the invitation - if only to ensure she is not now suspected of having deliberately booked the holiday.

I’d a situation a few months back where I went to a large family reunion without the children as it was ex’s contact weekend, and the number of people who tutted, sympathized, rolled their eyes and complained about exh as if he had engineered the whole thing showed me how these situations can create a lot of animosity, even if it is misplaced.

Op, your exMIL May well feel very disappointed and hurt and while that is not your fault or responsibility, I think if I were you I would take special steps to eg send a video greeting from Budapest or send flowers from the children, rather than a too-glib ‘shame you didn’t say sooner’ when in truth you did know about it before you booked the trip.

Sorry but while I think Yanbu, you do need to make some alternative gesture to mark the occasion in a special way.

silverTIRFer · 19/04/2018 03:49

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liminality · 19/04/2018 04:06

I didn't read anything on the other thread that made this seem justified.
You go on lots of holidays.
The fact that you think that your kids will get 'more out of hanging out with you' than with their grandparents, father, extended familiy, cousins etc says a lot about you.
When you have a big day on your exH contact weekend, don't expect him to play nice.
It's quite likely that your exMIL doesn't communicate with you cause you have cut her off - sounds ike she was trying to be friendly and make arrangements that suited you. UABU

Sciurus83 · 19/04/2018 04:10

I read the full original thread at the time before anyone assumes otherwise. I have re-read and read this and STILL think that this is incredibly disappointing that you could not separate your frustrations with your ex and MIL from prioritising your children's relationship with their grandmother. That matters, you could have gone on holiday another time, this is an important family event for them. How terribly spiteful of you to knowingly do this when you could've been the bigger person for their sake. You really haven't bathed yourself in glory here.

StylishMummy · 19/04/2018 04:34

Holiday trumps party 10000x over

Sciurus83 · 19/04/2018 04:38

A booked holiday trumps a party for sure. This wasn't.....

silverTIRFer · 19/04/2018 04:58

@StylishMummy

As she said in her first thread, she deliberately booked a holiday after knowing about the party. That's different.

dragonator · 19/04/2018 06:21

I don't go on lots of holidays at all. This will be the first year in my life, or at least since having dc, that I go away for more than one week in the summer.

I have been having an awful time lately, work related, and, towards the end of the Easter holiday, which was impacted by work stresses (I'm a teacher) I became determined to do something to make the next holiday better. Then, just as I was on the crux of booking the only times I could afford, the dc came home mentioning the party - but I still knew nothing concrete about it. I don't think that makes me an especially awful and spiteful person.

I could add that I've had a pretty awful couple of years, due to ex's infidelity, lies about said infidelity, difficulties over contact with the dc (I have consistently gone out of me my way to flexible over this), and failure to pay any CM for them, ever, and nasty texts to me over this. I do know it's not his dm's fault, and this isn't about revenge, but it is all part of why I feel in need of a treat. The May half-term is only one week, and all flights for the first half of it were a lot more expensive. There is no other time I could have gone, unless it was a completely different time, and that would have taken away from the whole purpose of the holiday.

If she/ex had mentioned the party to me as soon as they had a date fixed, which must have been a good while ago, then none of this would have happened. I would have known they were going to it and it wouldn't have occurred to me to back out once I'd agreed they could go, but that never happened. The misunderstanding about my birthday being impacted could also have been avoided had they told me the date properly once they had it.

As I said on the other thread, I constantly have to organise ex having the dc over the holidays as he doesn't bother. Great for me really, as I have them more than he said I would when we split, when he claimed to want 50/50. If he's lied to his mother about us having set times in the holidays to make himself look less of an arse, that isn't my fault either.

I know it's not the main issue, but the dc have no cousins their own age, or none that they have ever met, anyway. I do think it will be a very adult-based event. I have prior experience of similar events with mil, and have no reason to believe they will have an amazing time/are missing out on anything other than amusing themselves after having been paraded around a bit - not the end of the world, and wouldn't have stopped me sending them had I been properly informed with notice, but there's no reason for people who know nothing about it to be wringing their hands about what a marvellous experience they're missing out on, because they're not.

OP posts:
StylishMummy · 19/04/2018 06:24

@silverTIRFer no it's not, if I got the opportunity for an affordable holiday I'd take it pretty much regardless of what was going on here (weddings/surgery/BIG BIG stuff) obviously would be honoured- but a geriatric birthday party is not on my 'important shit to do' list

Whatthefoxgoingon · 19/04/2018 06:33

Absolutely no need to justify yourself. Sending an invitation addressed to your children was a dick move and shows your ex MIL for the person she is. Enjoy your holiday!

Whatthefoxgoingon · 19/04/2018 06:35

And I am firmly against obligatory parading of children at inappropriate functions geared towards adults. They go only if they want to go.