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To have lost interest in the royal wedding because...

448 replies

malificent7 · 12/04/2018 03:59

If the council in Windsor wanting to clear homeless out ?

I mean why don't the royal couple open a shelter instead given they are 'humanitarian' ?

OP posts:
Teddy1970 · 12/04/2018 09:06

I don't think we should pay for the security bill either, the RF have a choice of palaces, all with chapels, they could have got married in one of those. I just think taxpayers money is better spent on something else...he's 6th in line to the throne and once William and Kate's children grow up and get partners they'll become even more insignificant...

UserInfinityplus1 · 12/04/2018 09:07

The whole thing is a fucking farce. And now the virtue signalling of "oh please donate to charity rather than bringing wedding presents". How about Harry and Meagain donate the exact amount it would cost in security for the bloody thing to charity? I won't hold my breath.

EenaMinaMoe · 12/04/2018 09:08

They could have a small, private wedding where there was no need for extra security and therefore NO burden on the taxpayer

Be realistic. They knew there would be public interest. There has been in Harry since he was a baby. He has tried to go off and live a private life and it's largely buckled beneath the weight off the press - remember his time in the army where he had to get pulled out of Afghanistan. Plus, I presume that even a small private wedding would have required a lot of security as the entire royal family would be there. Unless your idea is that he shouldn't invite his dad, or brother, or grandmother?

You're basically pushing a completely nonsensical line which fits with an ideology. If you want to abolish the monarchy, then fine. But even then, if the public interest and known threat existed and an event at which they came together created a public risk, the police would need to manage it. That's sort of the point of having a police force.

BattleaxeGalactica · 12/04/2018 09:11

I reckon she will pop out a child and then within ten years they will be ‘consciously uncoupling’ or whatever the current twatty buzzphrase is.

I have recently said pretty much the same to dh except I reckon it'll be a couple of meal tickets sprogs and five years.

ParisUSM · 12/04/2018 09:11

Couldn't care less, but will have a good laugh at the saddos who will turn up and camp overnight somewhere with their union jack hats on. The Royals are a bunch of parasites, and the monarchy should be abolished.

turnipfarmers · 12/04/2018 09:13

It's terrible what councils are doing to homeless people, there are moves to fine them in some areas. They are, it seems, a blot on the landscape who have no rights and no compassion is there for them - it's how it is in politics today, you either pay your way, toe the party line, or are considered to be worthless and a drain on society.

Teddy1970 · 12/04/2018 09:14

There doesn't seem to be the same level of anticipation or excitement with this wedding compared to the others..

BertrandRussell · 12/04/2018 09:15

Didn’t Prince Charles manage a reasonably low key wedding?

SuburbanRhonda · 12/04/2018 09:20

Harry seems to be one of the most down to earth Royals

Bit of an oxymoron, surely?

SchadenfreudePersonified · 12/04/2018 09:26

I wasn't interested in the first place. Nothing against either of them, and Harry seems to be one of the most down to earth Royals, but I have no more interest in their wedding than in any other complete strangers' wedding.

This

But I do agree with OP that some of the most vulnerable members of society are being cleared away as though they were rubbish! For a tenth of what is being spent on this day of pouncing about, they could provide long term shelter and practical help for a LOT of people.

Many of the homeless are ex-servicemen. They've ended up on the streets because the things they've been through in the service of THIS country have affected them physically and mentally to a degree that they can't fit into ordinary life any more; many others are CHILDREN, fleeing abuse at home; a lot are people who have lost their jobs, and then their homes and then their families through no fault of their own.

Most of us are about 2 payslips away from sleeping in a skip.

Instead of pouring money into a brief spectacle, we should be investing in our people. Even if you ignore the ethics of the situation - look at it in practical terms - a well-fed, well-housed population is a productive population.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 12/04/2018 09:26

*poncing, not pouncing

Laiste · 12/04/2018 09:32

The world seeing pictures of homeless people laying in sleeping bags in the street as the public hoot and wave at a cavalcade of grinning millionaires sweeping out of a castle a few meters away won't be allowed.

Not a good look for the royals, the borough of Windsor or the UK in general.

I wonder what the amazing philanthropist couple think about the problem being swept under the carpet for the day?

The80sweregreat · 12/04/2018 09:36

The security bill for William and Kate 's wedding also run into millions ( was probably more than this will be ) yet i know some people that stood around all night to catch a glimpse of them going into the Abbey. Complete madness. if they want security all of it should be paid for by them and not the tax payer. None of it should come out of the public purse - giving the council some more money to home the homeless in that area and the rest of the UK permanently is a much better use of resources. Seems money can always be found for the Royals when they are all extremely wealthy already.

Didiusfalco · 12/04/2018 09:36

I think one of the charities they’ve asked for donations to is Crisis. I don’t think they’re oblivious. Whether their wedding is interesting or not is a separate issue.

HolidayHelpPlease · 12/04/2018 09:40

Homelessness is very complex. It’s not simply having the beds (I would argue that in London the volume of beds is this part of the issues), the homeless people need to want to engage with the services. Most shelters in my experience are single sex, no pets, arrive by X time stay until Y (you can’t go outside once you’re ‘in’ for a cigarette), no fighting and be sober. Lots of people aren’t interested in following those rules, and quite often the support in these shelters can be brilliant. It’s people who are shoved in B&Bs my heart goes out to . Organisations have to guarantee the safety of their staff.
I don’t think the council have handled this well but nothing I’ve read suggests they’re turning away people from their shelters. What I have read is that some people are living in the shelters for up to six months (I think Buzzfeed?) which suggests the housing list is pretty long there anyway.
We can’t just shove the homeless in flats and say job done, it doesn’t solve any of the underlying causes.

Mumto2two · 12/04/2018 09:47

I'm not usually drawn to comment on anything celebrity/ Royal related. Am too old to care Smile But I have to agree with some people, there really is something that doesn't sit right with Miss Markle. The family divide seems odd, there are always two or more sides to a story. And not everyone she has known in the past, has pleasant things to say. It would ring alarm bells with me. So yes, 5 years max is my guess too!

ParisUSM · 12/04/2018 09:53

In reality the homeless sadly get cleared from the streets for any occasion - saw it in Glasgow with the Commonwealth Games.

Interested in the 'housing first' plans in Scotland
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-43025667

The80sweregreat · 12/04/2018 09:54

I don’t think it will last either.
In a few years time she will be on the cover of magazines unhappy and lots of speculation of her divorce settlement figure.
I feel horrible writing this but she seems a bit fake and there is something a bit odd about all of it. Hope I’m wrong but also old and seen it all before.

Pinkvoid · 12/04/2018 09:54

If anyone is on instagram you should follow Gary Janetti. He takes this piss out of Meghan and it’s absolutely hilarious, he does it from Prince George’s perspective. I can’t explain but it cracks me up.

lastnamefirstfirstnamelast · 12/04/2018 09:58

I have no interest because this wedding does seem rather rushed and Meghan seems to be trying too hard and comes across a very good actress on the royal visits.

Sunafterstorm · 12/04/2018 10:06

Surely the security is also going to protect the public who turn up to watch, not just the royals.

Dragongirl10 · 12/04/2018 10:07

What a vicious bunch if vipers some of you are!

How would you like to be spoken about like that by people who do not know you?

BertrandRussell · 12/04/2018 10:08

Dragongirl- do you seriously see no irony in that post? Grin

The80sweregreat · 12/04/2018 10:08

I suppose the public need protecting I agree / but to make them pay for it too is wrong. Why anyone would want to go and gawp at them is beyond me but horses for courses and all that.

pigmcpigface · 12/04/2018 10:10

There is actually an event called the Royal Sleepover being organised on this precise issue of the clearing of the homeless. A bunch of people are going to attempt to sleep rough for the night in protest at the removal of homeless people, and will be bringing food and hot drinks for the homeless too.

Also a petition: petition.parliament.uk/petitions/209683