To have lost interest in the royal wedding because...

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If the council in Windsor wanting to clear homeless out ?

I mean why don't the royal couple open a shelter instead given they are 'humanitarian' ?

The point is that should a role even exist where we're promoting the principle that some people are born better or higher than others?

This is the problem really isn’t it? It’s such an anachronism. But there is the point that a constitutional monarchy may protect us from a dictatorship because nobody can seize power and suspend democracy while it exists. And I think there is some benefit to that argument. Because when you look at some of the horrors who have been elected around the world it is worrying we could end up with a HoS like that. But First Past the Post is also an effective block too.

I think at the moment it basically boils down to the Queen is the best option at the moment.

www.owen.org/blog/414
I agree with most of these reasons why we shouldn't have a monarchy, particularly 4 and 5.

For the people who support the monarchy I wonder if none of them has ever complained of or fallen foul of nepotism. In fact, I wonder what exactly their views on nepotism are.

I agree with 4. That’s a good argument for a Republic. I don’t agree with 5 at all though. Having worked in Engineering I’ve seen how much a Royal Visit can work magic on foreign investors because they see it as a mark of honour and esteem.

Nobody forces a Royal Visit, it’s not compulsory. If tech companies and Unis didn’t want to associate with them they wouldn’t. But a lot do, because it’s good for business.

For the people who support the monarchy I wonder if none of them has ever complained of or fallen foul of nepotism. In fact, I wonder what exactly their views on nepotism are.

Whataboutery. I don't mind the Royals - certainly not bothered about trying to abolish them. There's a lot of corruption and nepotism elsewhere that'd need addressing before I got around to them. THe BBC and Politics are a couple of examples.

There's a difference between nepotism that goes on undetected (because it's deemed wrong in all other public offices) and this particular state sponsored/approved nepotism!

Surely whataboutery is pointing at the BBC etc and saying what about the nepotism there?

I agree with 4. That’s a good argument for a Republic. I don’t agree with 5 at all though. Having worked in Engineering I’ve seen how much a Royal Visit can work magic on foreign investors because they see it as a mark of honour and esteem.

indeed, it's beneficial if you haven't accounted for the cost of the monarchy. Subtract 200mil and see if it is still beneficial.

as for protecting us against dictatorship, I don't see evidence for that. A good constitution will do that too. The US has had the same republic now for 250 years. France has not. The world is full of despotic monarchs.

Surely whataboutery is pointing at the BBC etc and saying what about the nepotism there?
Agreed, but I didn't start the whataboutery, I was joining in.
I'm not too bothered about the Royals.
Most of the objections on the linked to blog are-
-Highly theoretical and haven't happened in recent history
-Easy to remove without abolishing the monarchy

Most of the objections on the linked to blog are- -Highly theoretical and haven't happened in recent history -Easy to remove without abolishing the monarchy

Number 4 isn't either of those things. I'd say that's the best argument against a monarchy.

Andrew dislikes Meghan according to the press. She must be nice then!

it's a marriage not a job offer/election in to office

I don't imagine for a moment that MM believes we vote for our monarchs, but do wonder how much she's influenced by a background where the head of state and many others do have to fight for election

Let's also not forget the endless opinion polls which are carried out about the monarchy; it wouldn't be surprising if an American found that confusing, and IME from a great deal of time spent there, many do

Have to say that the RF is only there as a result of marriage, accident of birth and nepotism.

I would like an elected Head of State. At least we would have a vote in that one.

Pension them all off and take over their castles I say. To the barricades!

The concept of monarchy is totally wrong and is not acceptable in a modern democracy. And the thought that you can suddenly become royal overnight by marrying a member of this family is beyond ridiculous.

Andrew dislikes Meghan according to the press. She must be nice then!
Haha now that IS a reason for liking her.

Given that three of the queen's children are divorced as was her sister, I never understood the objection that some people have to him marrying a divorcee.

Given that three of the queen's children are divorced

In the eyes of the Church, Charles is a widower.

If Andrew dislikes Meghan there must be something pretty sound about her

The ONS stats not enough proof?

No. What do they say about the monarchy and tourism?

No. What stats?

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Ah yes, the eyes of the church.

I guess all those complaining about her divorce are Christians worried about the views of the Church, despite the Archbishop of Canterbury not having an issue with it.

Wonder what the head of the Church of England thinks about divorce. She can't really complain though, not with her offspring.

Wonder what the head of the Church of England thinks about divorce.

CofE has no problem with divorce and will remarry divorces people. They also have gay priests. Having a divorced heir to the Head position had the added effect of making them a lot more liberal!

My Gran has a gay priest and he and his partner have been absolutely wonderful supporting her through a recent illness so I think that is a rather lovely side effect of all the divorces.

Not as liberal as they should be. The problem they have with Catholics for instance. Rules are usually bent to suit themselves.