To find floral tributes being left for Harry Vincent offensive

[frankchickens]

This is an attempt to intimidate the innocent family. Flowers should be removed - isn’t it littering?

I don't give a shiny shit they're from the traveller community doesn't matter to me.

"I know genuine traveller families, hard working, catholic and fair."

But yet you say, "
Shocked they could even write the cards to be fair. They must be evolving though if they let their women be 'educated' these days"

So which is it?

Meh whatever people shouldnt be allowed to just put stuff wherever they want to. Yeh..isnt it littering?

They are opposite the house.

In a street no more than 20m wide.

They are not at the site the dead career burglar died.

The local florist must be making a killing

whisky
while is does sound insane to me yes - the police can only act within their powers and procedures within the law.

In any other situation, they would have been nicked for a breach of the peace, or similar.

No they wouldn’t. He asked the permission of the householder who gave it to him so he acted totally legally.

He was a complete dick to put up the footage of the householder giving permission though. He’ll be another one can’t stay in his house right now.

Oh, and now some vigilante twat from North London has been ripping down the shrine and ranting to the press about how they should be burnt. A lot of help that's going to be to the residents - who apparently, at first, took the displays down gently and laid them on the pavements.

Sparkling they’re wholesaler florist boxes.

Whiskey2014, they've always done it and tbh, i'd defend anyone's right to do it.

If people can lay flowers for Lady Di, then they can do it for Joe Blogs.

The point is that one group of people can't be stopped from doing it, when another can.

Glad the flowers were taken down.
Feel for the old man and his family for having his life tipped upside down.

But it should be done somewhere appropriate he DIDNT die there

If people can lay flowers for Lady Di, then they can do it for Joe Blogs.

But this is like all those people going and piling up the flowers outside Henri Paul's house, isn't it?

ReanimatedSGB that's who I was talking about before, he did it on camera and by definition was in danger of committing a breach of the peace.

Mightymucks

Omg that is absolutely outrageous. I can't believe the council wouldn't re-home you, that's awful.

I don’t remember any news reports of Lady Di breaking into a pensioners house and threatening the homeowner with a screw driver

its morally wrong. you will not get a single police officer saying different.
but the law is the law. police can only operate under their powers. they have no power to take down a floral trubute unless the fence owner rings up saying he doesnt want it there. (cmon fence owner!)

the police are impartial. evidence gatherers. thats all. personal feelings cannot come into it.

im far from a version of computer says no - but if police could act on personal feeling then im suspecting youd be first to complain.

I didn't know he was a traveller. I don't much care. He died because he broke in to someone's house with an intent to rob, armed so with the means to hurt. He deserved no mercy, and while I'm not delighted at his death I don't really give a shit about it either.

I don't think the 'tributes' should be allowed there. If people really feel strongly about his death (not just attention seeking) then they can go and put them around his trailer or wherever it was he lived.

I suppose what is needed/normal is some embarrassment, humiliation and regret/sorrow from the Travellers for the actions of their relatives. That might be a good start. But nothing of the sort. Seems to me they can do what they like. Police keeping a low profile as it's only flowers. But I don't think that is all it is.

I do hope this does not escalate.

The police, who have a car parked outside the house, could have stopped the flowers going up in the first place. All they had to do is say “is that your fence?”

im really glad theyve been torn down. thats my personal feeling. my professional one is that i must abide by the law. or lose my job. and integrity.

The point is that one group of people can't be stopped from doing it, when another can.

The only issue is that they were attached to a fence which is private property so the police didn’t have the power to act. But of course we all know that the householder would have been afraid to move them because of intimidation.

The correct thing for the police to do would have been to have asked the householders permission and quietly removed them. It was a dick move for the police not to act because quite predictably vigilantes removed them and then the travelers put them back then another vigilante pulled them down etc, etc, etc.

The police refusal to take sensible action led to this situation escalating.

please people - it is not a police officers job to decide if those flowers can be placed.
please get that???