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Husband getting drunk with children . Going to have to give up on my dreams . Please help

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Bedtimesnacks · 09/04/2018 20:59

Posting here for traffic.

Been with husband for almost 16 years . Married nearly 7. Have 4 children . He's always been a drinker and over the years it's caused all sorts of problems. Losing driving licence, violence , verbal abuse and all sorts. All of this aimed at me not the children. Last time he physically laid hands on me was 7 years ago. So nothing recent although he's got in my face a few times in argument. I have never been much of a drinker but as a result of living with one i don't keep drink at home. Don't drink with him on the rare occasion we go out. I don't like my children around alcohol even in a social setting .

When we first met I was young and didn't have a huge network of friends . As I have got older that's changed mainly through a hobby I have . My children sometimes accompany me. Other times I go on my own with friends for the social side afterwards of a few drinks or a meal and a chat etc. This is something he doesn't like. Caused no end of rows and arguments . He's slagged me off to his family over it. Criticizing me as a parent. Saying j am out too much. For the record I do my hobby once a week or fortnight and it doesn't run all year either. This is the only time he would have the children to look after on his own. I cook , clean, do all household duties. Get up with them in the night and so on. For years and years his social outlet was the pub which could be sprung on me at shirt notice. IE. When I was stood with a dinner ready waiting for him to come home and he had decided to detour to the nearest pub. Having small babies in arms or me being pregnant made not one jot of difference to him doing this . But when it's me having an outlet I am deemed to be in the wrong.

He stopped drinking last august after a particularly difficult summer at which time i told him to leave and he was looking for a flat to rent elsewhere. Barring one blip he hadn't touched a drop. This was going from him drinking 6 cans a night every night .

Now all my children are at school full time I want to go back to work. I have applied for a job I have always wanted to do . Passed the online assessments and the training days. This has involved me having to being the gym for months to meet the fitness for it. I am a month or so away from entering vetting. My assessment scores were excellent and there is no doubt I would be good at the job. However the training will involve being on a 10 week residential training course in the north of the country. Only coming home at weekends. The job will involve shifts over 7 days a week / 24 hrs/ 365 days a year rota and it's also a high stress job which carries a degree of responsibility and will leave me unable to contact people during the working day. This was all fine with us due to the stopping of drinking.

However this weekend I went away with a group of friends for two nights. Grandparents had the children on the first night. Husband had them the second night. Turns out he took them to the park in the afternoon and sat there drinking and getting himself pissed up in public view. He rung me up in the evening and as soon as I heard his voice the bottom fell out of my world. I was so upset by the state of him and panic washed over me I went back to my hotel and barring something to eat remained in my room all evening as I wasn't up to going out and being sociable with the worry of what he was doing in my mind.

I now face having to give up and withdraw my application for the career I want. I don't have family help other than my mum who lives an hour's drive away and has health issues. She cannot be my childcare across those sort of working rotas. A childminder can't cover me on night shifts and the length of day shifts etc. I have emailed today and asked how the work life balance works and it's something I have to apply for after the 10 week training course and it's subject to a board agreeing to it . So in short I don't know if I can guarantee it. I feel absolutely trapped. In a panic and I feel sick to be honest. I feel ashamed. I cried down the phone to my mum about it this morning.

Please someone talk to me, hold my hand and help me . I feel so alone 😖

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Singadream · 09/04/2018 21:01

No advice but am here Flowers

Ginormoustrawberry · 09/04/2018 21:02

Would an au pair work?

WipsGlitter · 09/04/2018 21:02

I don't really have any advice. Even without a reliable partner the job does sound difficult to work around.

Has your partner sought help from anyone / any organisation for his problems?

WipsGlitter · 09/04/2018 21:03

I don't think you could live an au pair with someone who was getting drunk. They are not really supposed to be in sole charge of children.

sameoldsame · 09/04/2018 21:06

Leave him, sort out a support network for yourself and you’re children, do everything you can to secure this job.

DO not martyr yourself for this man. Sadly our children will always have an alcoholic abusive drunk for a father, unless he changes.

Do you think the likelihood is he will go for more than EOW? Because I doubt he will, and he might fight in the beginning, but the likelihood is he will just give up.

Get advice from a solicitor ASAP. And make sure you don’t lose everything because of him

sameoldsame · 09/04/2018 21:06

*your

Chillyegg · 09/04/2018 21:07

Oh my darling. My advice is free your self of him. Everything else will fall into place. He’ll only just keep letting you down . Hell of drunk purposely to spite you it’s sll about control . Flowers

sameoldsame · 09/04/2018 21:07

And FYI
seems like you’re a single parent already

Sassypants82 · 09/04/2018 21:08

A live in Au Pair sounds like your best bet.

PrimalLass · 09/04/2018 21:08

No Wisp she could leave him then get an au pair.

Bedtimesnacks · 09/04/2018 21:12

Thought about an au pair. My house is a private rent. Been here a few years. An au pair would need her own room which would mean me having to move to a bigger property. The job would be the key as it would give me the earning potential of just over £30k a year which means I could rent in my own right. Obviously he would be gone and then the au pair come in . No idea on cost and how it would work as I would be on a 40 HR week contract even if I managed to secure compacted hours

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louharrisismyhero · 09/04/2018 21:15

it would be easier to be a single parent than having him as a co-parent in theory but dragging you down!

OP, think of it this way:
Your child's father should be a positive influence on family life

He isn't.

He isn't a positive influence.
he's not even a neutral one.

he's dragging you down with him, teaching his children this is what a healthy relationship looks like, telling them this is how you treat your partner.

for god's sake, ditch him, sort out a formal child maintenance split, and get on with your life - you might never be able to do the career you want BUT you can guarantee he doesn't drag you with him any further - THAT is 100% within your control. If you said right now, i don't want this any more, that's it - you haven't any obligation to stay with him.

You can walk away, and your children can maintain a (formal) relationship with him as a father, but you don't have to be in a relationship with him any more

SabineUndine · 09/04/2018 21:16

Did he do this deliberately to stop your career aspirations? It sounds like it. I think you need to work out exactly what you need in order to do your course - dump this idiot first - and work out what it would cost. Then work out how to fund it. Crowdfunding, bank loan, whatever. Don’t let him stop you.

MojoMoon · 09/04/2018 21:20

Live in nanny for the ten week course?
Expensive but would be worth using savings/borrowing for?
Then you'd be qualified and your lifetime earnings potential is massively higher.

Au pair could work once you are in work. They are supposed to do light child care only so before/after school care is fine but all day and night alone is not. I think up to 30 hours a week so could work as your kids are in school. You'll need a nanny for the course element due to the extended period and sole care.

Was he totally incapable? What happened to the children and how did they get back from the park?

BMW6 · 09/04/2018 21:21

Whether you get to do this new career or not your first priority MUST be to get out of this hellish marriage.
I think he is deliberately scuppering it to keep you close.

Please get out of it (the marriage) first and foremost.

Scotstar · 09/04/2018 21:22

The job you are going for, if I'm correct, will not be guarantees finishing hours if a job comes in either. I think you would need a very flexible childcare arrangement unless you were office based but that won't be possible for first 2 years and not why you go into the job! I hope you get it resolved op and don't feel forced into giving up your dream x

Chesntoots · 09/04/2018 21:22

If it's the job that I am thinking about (and it sounds like it is!) he will get even more arsey as you get more confident and build up a group of friend that have your back. Often literally.
I would get the training out of the way and then look towards what the other posters have suggested. You don't want or need the stress of wondering what is happening at home when you have a full on job.
You may be able to apply for flexible working or work life balance so that could help.

NC4Now · 09/04/2018 21:22

I think I know the job and it is hard on the best of relationships (but incredibly worthwhile).
From what you say it sounds like you will get more from the career than the relationship. You sound like you’ve hit your boundary.
Public sector is very supportive (I work for the same organisation as does DH), so there will be options down the line, but you may need to establish yourself first. There are lots of people who work flexibly on staff. Not sure how it works on the other side.
On the plus side, you’ll often find parents evening or sports day falls on a rest day so you don’t need to take time off for your DCs.
You’ll know your shifts months in advance, so you can book childcare. We used after school clubs and childminders (but never worked past midnight). Often if you tell providers who you work for they will allow a bit more flexibility if you give them enough notice.
I think now is the time to call in all the support you can find. You’ve worked hard for this.
Flowers Awful timing from your DH.

Prestonsflowers · 09/04/2018 21:23

I’m with louharrisismyhero
Leave him and build your own life with your children.
Alcoholics will never change unless they want to, it doesn’t seem like he does.
💐💐

lattewith3shotsplease · 09/04/2018 21:24

OP,
So sorry to hear this.
Gutted for you.
Flowers

GladysKnight · 09/04/2018 21:24

Well you've got two tasks here. First, to separate from unreliable nasty drunk, second to figure out the best way to combine satisfying work, earning a living, and childcare. an au pair does sound like it could potentially work. Is it reasonable for me to suggest that if it won't work with an au pair (and I really hope it does!) it definitely wouldn't have worked with shitface.

You need to be rational, calm, write it all down and not catastrophise about husband's predictable shittiness taking it all away. It could also be an opportunity, as an au pair is not going to treat you badly and obstructively the way your husband does as would quite possibly have escalated with. Ditch him, and you can finally be in control.

RepealMay25th · 09/04/2018 21:25

Would an au pair work?

An au pair, to leave the children with 5 days and nights a week, only coming back on weekends? Please tell me people don't actually think they can get an au pair (who is supposed to work approx 25 hours a week and be treated like a family member) to do that?

Shizzlestix · 09/04/2018 21:25

Defer, get rid of him, sort out childcare, go back in 6 months. Priority must be to offload this asshole.

LizzieDarcy1907 · 09/04/2018 21:30

I think you need to sort your life out in stages. Firstly and most importantly you need to get this man out of your life. He's an alcoholic and you now can't trust him to keep your children safe. What he did was horrendous and very controlling behaviour.

Then, when the dust has settled and life has found a new normal you then look at doing your training again. Right now, it sounds an impossibility if I'm honest.

Bedtimesnacks · 09/04/2018 21:31

The problem is if I say anything to him he will either twist it round on me. I went away etc etc and it's ok for me to do something but not him. Or he will say it was just a blip. I casually asked one child if they saw any of their school friends when out and what was daddy doing while they played. Sitting on a bench drinking 4 cans of beer was the reply. It's 5% stuff he drinks so not low Al either. He will say it's a blip. I will now have the anxiety of if and when he's going to do it again every time I leave the house. Is it today, tomorrow next week next month. Never? It's the not knowing. It's horrific.

It's not the police force but very much along those lines . So it's very much dependent on the needs of the establishment !

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