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Husband getting drunk with children . Going to have to give up on my dreams . Please help

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Bedtimesnacks · 09/04/2018 20:59

Posting here for traffic.

Been with husband for almost 16 years . Married nearly 7. Have 4 children . He's always been a drinker and over the years it's caused all sorts of problems. Losing driving licence, violence , verbal abuse and all sorts. All of this aimed at me not the children. Last time he physically laid hands on me was 7 years ago. So nothing recent although he's got in my face a few times in argument. I have never been much of a drinker but as a result of living with one i don't keep drink at home. Don't drink with him on the rare occasion we go out. I don't like my children around alcohol even in a social setting .

When we first met I was young and didn't have a huge network of friends . As I have got older that's changed mainly through a hobby I have . My children sometimes accompany me. Other times I go on my own with friends for the social side afterwards of a few drinks or a meal and a chat etc. This is something he doesn't like. Caused no end of rows and arguments . He's slagged me off to his family over it. Criticizing me as a parent. Saying j am out too much. For the record I do my hobby once a week or fortnight and it doesn't run all year either. This is the only time he would have the children to look after on his own. I cook , clean, do all household duties. Get up with them in the night and so on. For years and years his social outlet was the pub which could be sprung on me at shirt notice. IE. When I was stood with a dinner ready waiting for him to come home and he had decided to detour to the nearest pub. Having small babies in arms or me being pregnant made not one jot of difference to him doing this . But when it's me having an outlet I am deemed to be in the wrong.

He stopped drinking last august after a particularly difficult summer at which time i told him to leave and he was looking for a flat to rent elsewhere. Barring one blip he hadn't touched a drop. This was going from him drinking 6 cans a night every night .

Now all my children are at school full time I want to go back to work. I have applied for a job I have always wanted to do . Passed the online assessments and the training days. This has involved me having to being the gym for months to meet the fitness for it. I am a month or so away from entering vetting. My assessment scores were excellent and there is no doubt I would be good at the job. However the training will involve being on a 10 week residential training course in the north of the country. Only coming home at weekends. The job will involve shifts over 7 days a week / 24 hrs/ 365 days a year rota and it's also a high stress job which carries a degree of responsibility and will leave me unable to contact people during the working day. This was all fine with us due to the stopping of drinking.

However this weekend I went away with a group of friends for two nights. Grandparents had the children on the first night. Husband had them the second night. Turns out he took them to the park in the afternoon and sat there drinking and getting himself pissed up in public view. He rung me up in the evening and as soon as I heard his voice the bottom fell out of my world. I was so upset by the state of him and panic washed over me I went back to my hotel and barring something to eat remained in my room all evening as I wasn't up to going out and being sociable with the worry of what he was doing in my mind.

I now face having to give up and withdraw my application for the career I want. I don't have family help other than my mum who lives an hour's drive away and has health issues. She cannot be my childcare across those sort of working rotas. A childminder can't cover me on night shifts and the length of day shifts etc. I have emailed today and asked how the work life balance works and it's something I have to apply for after the 10 week training course and it's subject to a board agreeing to it . So in short I don't know if I can guarantee it. I feel absolutely trapped. In a panic and I feel sick to be honest. I feel ashamed. I cried down the phone to my mum about it this morning.

Please someone talk to me, hold my hand and help me . I feel so alone 😖

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user838383 · 10/04/2018 10:50

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GeekyWombat · 10/04/2018 11:05

What Jemima said. He has taken so much from you and your DC already through his behaviour. Don’t let him have your dreams and their quality of life.

Jux · 10/04/2018 11:29

Would your mum be able to take the children for the 10 weeks of the course?

If you were to move closer to her, would she be able to help with some childcare once you've passed and started actually working? That would bring childcare costs down a bit.

Bedtimesnacks · 10/04/2018 13:10

Part of me is inclined to think get on a training course asap. Ask for it to be non residential so I am home each night . As soon as it's finished put my application in for compacted working hours and turf him out bringing in mother / wrap around care . If I act in haste I will fuck up my own future. He will go. I will have no job and be reliant on benefits. If my landlord was to sell I would be straight up shit creek without a paddle. Council waiting lists here are absolutely huge. No agents or landlords will take dss claimants. I would be totally fucked. This job if I can get the right balance of hours holds the key to unpick the lock .

I feel too tired and beaten down to even speak to him about what's gone on. To be brutally honest I just want to take to my bed and sleep away the anxiety and worry.

On another note the whole mood changes here when I am going out to take part in said hobby with or without one or more children. Silent treatment, snide comments, a general air that he doesn't like it. It's starting to filter through the rest of his family whose opinion I couldn't care a jot for. It just riles me. Their son can beat me, drink and do fuck knows what to me over the years which they know about . Left me with kids regularly while he sat in a pub somewhere or came home in a stupor incapable of doing anything with them so it was left to me but default. That's all perfectly ok but now it's my turn , now the tables have reversed (just to add I don't come home drunk , being abusive, pissing the bed , nor do I just take off on the spur of the moment with no warning) no one bloody likes it. Makes me so angry

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Therewearethen1 · 10/04/2018 13:24

Also bear in mind that vetting can take a while and the course dates available stretch about 6 months into the future so you could always choose a course at the back end of the year to give more time to get your house in order as it were.

I don't think you can request compressed hours for a year after training though. If you get in touch with your establishment you may be able to get hold of a "mock" rota to give you an idea of hours. My husband's week of night shifts are every 13 weeks for example.

NC4Now · 10/04/2018 13:26

You’re in a really difficult spot, for sure, and I think it’s very sensible to try and secure your career. You’ll be supporting your children solo, so anything you can do to better your circumstances is good.
Personally I’d go with your plan, if possible.
He sounds dreadful and a millstone round your neck.
Focus on your own life now. Flowers

Eliza9917 · 10/04/2018 13:26

I've seen things advertised before where people offer free board in return for help etc. Could that be an option?

Morphene · 10/04/2018 13:30

You are doing so well in piecing together your plan to get out of this. You are a star.

People have very outdated gender stereotyped views sometimes....just yesterday I noticed some big documentary or drama advertised on the BBC about 'what can make a mother leave her children' and I thought...yes people still see that as some massive deal that needs analysing, explaining, while 'what can make a father leave his children' doesn't even need thinking about as strange....and reasons considered valid by the general population seem to include 'not being mature enough to deal with being a Dad', and 'needing more time to find himself'.

You have to have a pretty fucked up view of women to think they shouldn't want a job or a hobby - but there are definitely people out there who struggle with it....and its their problem not yours OP.

Knitjob · 10/04/2018 13:31

Can you afford to hire some sort of short term nanny to cover the 2 weeks training? I have no idea how that would work.

If I were you I might feel a bit like I would never get started again if I hadn't at least done something. If you've done that part though you are definitely well on the road.

Once you have done that do you have to move straight on to the full job with full-on hours or could you then have a break and get yourself sorted?

Chesntoots · 10/04/2018 17:56

Have you asked about compressed hours? I only ask because our place and a couple of others in the region don't do them for operational grades - because it means you're not flexible enough for detail. Don't worry about nights though. I tend to give mine away because there's always people want to do them for the rest week afterwards!

Bedtimesnacks · 10/04/2018 18:24

Yeah I am not going in as an OSG but an actual officer. I have already spoken to the recruitment advisor at the establishment I applied to. Application for compressed hours can go into the guv once the 12 training course is done the other option is to try swapping shifts about. But that's obviously a headache although not completely beyond the realms of possibility I suppose. If the guv agrees it goes before a board who have to second it.

I have this afternoon applied for two other jobs in the same sort of field of work but which are office based with set hours.

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Chesntoots · 10/04/2018 18:49

Operational grades are anyone who works with the prisoners on landings etc. I'm an officer and am an operational grade as opposed to admin.
OSGs are operational support grades ie they support the other operational grades (It's an underappreciated job by some,but we couldn't do ours without them)
It sounds like a job with more office based hours would be better to start until you get numpty out of your life and then if you still have a strong desire to get covered in piss and whacked with a pool ball then you can always apply later - at least you will know what they are after!!

RepealMay25th · 10/04/2018 19:05

Can you afford to hire some sort of short term nanny to cover the 2 weeks training? I have no idea how that would work

Its ten weeks residential, you'd need day and night nannies.

Bedtimesnacks · 10/04/2018 20:21

Chesntoots. Under no illusion as to what the job entails. Being potted, self harm, dirty protests, being sworn at and the risk of assault. The service is in crisis with assaults on staff at record levels. It's a calling that's for sure

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Morphene · 10/04/2018 21:56

They have a massive recruitment issue atm don't they though? That should help in terms of being able to get a work load that will work for you?

Bedtimesnacks · 10/04/2018 22:28

Morphene yes they do and also retaining staff. But it does come down to the needs of the establishment and the other staff there

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