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Husband getting drunk with children . Going to have to give up on my dreams . Please help

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Bedtimesnacks · 09/04/2018 20:59

Posting here for traffic.

Been with husband for almost 16 years . Married nearly 7. Have 4 children . He's always been a drinker and over the years it's caused all sorts of problems. Losing driving licence, violence , verbal abuse and all sorts. All of this aimed at me not the children. Last time he physically laid hands on me was 7 years ago. So nothing recent although he's got in my face a few times in argument. I have never been much of a drinker but as a result of living with one i don't keep drink at home. Don't drink with him on the rare occasion we go out. I don't like my children around alcohol even in a social setting .

When we first met I was young and didn't have a huge network of friends . As I have got older that's changed mainly through a hobby I have . My children sometimes accompany me. Other times I go on my own with friends for the social side afterwards of a few drinks or a meal and a chat etc. This is something he doesn't like. Caused no end of rows and arguments . He's slagged me off to his family over it. Criticizing me as a parent. Saying j am out too much. For the record I do my hobby once a week or fortnight and it doesn't run all year either. This is the only time he would have the children to look after on his own. I cook , clean, do all household duties. Get up with them in the night and so on. For years and years his social outlet was the pub which could be sprung on me at shirt notice. IE. When I was stood with a dinner ready waiting for him to come home and he had decided to detour to the nearest pub. Having small babies in arms or me being pregnant made not one jot of difference to him doing this . But when it's me having an outlet I am deemed to be in the wrong.

He stopped drinking last august after a particularly difficult summer at which time i told him to leave and he was looking for a flat to rent elsewhere. Barring one blip he hadn't touched a drop. This was going from him drinking 6 cans a night every night .

Now all my children are at school full time I want to go back to work. I have applied for a job I have always wanted to do . Passed the online assessments and the training days. This has involved me having to being the gym for months to meet the fitness for it. I am a month or so away from entering vetting. My assessment scores were excellent and there is no doubt I would be good at the job. However the training will involve being on a 10 week residential training course in the north of the country. Only coming home at weekends. The job will involve shifts over 7 days a week / 24 hrs/ 365 days a year rota and it's also a high stress job which carries a degree of responsibility and will leave me unable to contact people during the working day. This was all fine with us due to the stopping of drinking.

However this weekend I went away with a group of friends for two nights. Grandparents had the children on the first night. Husband had them the second night. Turns out he took them to the park in the afternoon and sat there drinking and getting himself pissed up in public view. He rung me up in the evening and as soon as I heard his voice the bottom fell out of my world. I was so upset by the state of him and panic washed over me I went back to my hotel and barring something to eat remained in my room all evening as I wasn't up to going out and being sociable with the worry of what he was doing in my mind.

I now face having to give up and withdraw my application for the career I want. I don't have family help other than my mum who lives an hour's drive away and has health issues. She cannot be my childcare across those sort of working rotas. A childminder can't cover me on night shifts and the length of day shifts etc. I have emailed today and asked how the work life balance works and it's something I have to apply for after the 10 week training course and it's subject to a board agreeing to it . So in short I don't know if I can guarantee it. I feel absolutely trapped. In a panic and I feel sick to be honest. I feel ashamed. I cried down the phone to my mum about it this morning.

Please someone talk to me, hold my hand and help me . I feel so alone 😖

OP posts:
Fettuccinecarbonara · 09/04/2018 22:38

Find a big nursery which runs an after school club and holiday club.

You can ask staff there to be your personal babysitters.

This is what a lot of my forces friends do when their partners are away.

If I was single without support and warmth a decent wage, this is what I would do. The children get continuity of care; the nursery staff get additional monies and you get childcare, although you will need to pay for it.

Good luck, you’re making good choices x

Therewearethen1 · 09/04/2018 22:40

Just wanted to say my husband joined last year and was moved from residential to non-residential very easily. It obviously depends on where you're located and dates of the courses starting but it may be that you could wait for a non residential course closer to home. He also didn't do an awful lot of work outside of the course, a lot of it seemed to be common sense and fine if you have a decent memory.

We are however very lucky that he works in one of the safest prisons in the country with low levels of violence and incidents. He is home early or on time 99% of the time but obviously the nature of the job is that anything could happen.

ProjectGainsborough · 09/04/2018 22:43

Flowers so sorry you’re in this situation.

I can’t help with the job, as no experience there, but had an alcoholic father and your ‘heart sink’ moment on the phone rang so many bells. My alcolic dad never changed. I have ‘heart sink’ moments when I call him now as a 40 year old adult. I think you need to be free of him. I wish my mum had left my father years before she did.

Jux · 09/04/2018 22:44

Don't get drawn in to an argument with him about it. You can state your position and then refuse to engage with anything he says which isn't relevant ("it's only fair I have an outlet", "you were away, when do I get to enjoy myself", "I wasn't drunk" etc). Just don't go there, "we're talking about you being drunk while in charge" is the answer to pretty well any twisting he tries.

I wonder if you lived closer to your mum what implications that would have for this job? I also wonder if this is a one-off chance at it, or whether they would be able to put you on a later course, when the dust has settled and you've got dh out of your life.

calzone · 09/04/2018 22:53

What area are you in OP? Be as vague as you need to be.

I’m south east.

CollyWombles · 09/04/2018 22:58

I am married to an alcoholic OP. I don't really think your DH drank on purpose to sabotage the job. I do think he drank on purpose because he is jealous that you can go away for a weekend, have a drink etc. Which of course there is nothing wrong with you doing at all.

An alcoholic that wants to drink will find any excuse. Literally any. I would say with 100% certainty that you cannot do this job with DH watching the kids. He could, can and likely will relapse at any given time.

My husband takes Antabuse and as such has been dry for 9 months now, just returned to full time work and doing very well. I'm very proud of him but I know that relapses will happen. Perhaps when they take him off the antabuse.

Your husband will always be an alcoholic, either active or recovering.

I also have 4dc and worked full time as a manager whilst husband was at home but I was there with him each morning and made sure I always saw him take it before I left for work.

You could give him another chance of course, however with the job you want to do, any relapse is going to be a massive problem. So really, I don't personally think you could do this job if you intend on relying on him in any way to look after the children.

I think I would have to accept the career needs to be put on hold while kids are still young and with an unreliable partner. It doesn't mean forever but just now, from what you have said, I don't think it's possible for you.

JessicaJonesJacket · 09/04/2018 23:01

I don't think you have to give up on your dream career but I do think you have to defer it. You've managed to convince yourself that you have a stable home-life but this incident has shown that you don't.

Your DH is an alcoholic which, whether you stay or whether you leave, means you are effectively a single parent.The career you're considering isn't possible as a single parent with no family childcare options and four young children.

FASH84 · 09/04/2018 23:11

As someone who works in a similar field, have you considered the probation service rather than prison? Flexible/consolidated working is common, much more focus on rehabilitation, variety of roles within the service, case management, accredited cognitive programmes, victim work to name a few. You could follow your dreams with more flexibility and get rid of the dead weight around your neck. It's unlikely his return to drinking coincides with your increase in confidence and career options. We often end up with staff from prisons who thought working in a prison would be very different to the reality. Main focus is on security and process (as it needs to be) rather than rehabilitation, working with community partners and supporting people to support themselves. You will also spend longer working with your service users and building relationships and rapport, unless you go for a high cat prison with a high proportion of long sentences/lifers. Also you can get childcare vouchers etc too. Training is in work hours.

FASH84 · 09/04/2018 23:15

Sorry a few typos but hopefully you get the gist!

Bedtimesnacks · 09/04/2018 23:19

Yes south England / London borders

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FASH84 · 09/04/2018 23:23

I also think the reason people are saying the lapse was sabotage, is the history of control, coercion and abuse. He didn't need to 'lay hands on you' if he's got the control he wants. If he senses change that might not suit him and might give you more independence, confidence and the financial capacity to leave him. Consciously or otherwise he will seek to hold onto the way of life that's more comfortable for him, this could be because he thinks little of himself, little of you or a combination of the two (look into attachment styles in relationships). Also be prepared that in any of the mentioned services you will learn a lot about yourself and those around you and that can have a far reaching impact even on the most stable of relationships.

kingseven · 09/04/2018 23:29

No advice but wanted to say; how shit for you. Hope you can find a way to make it work. I know exactly how you are feeling right now.

DropItLikeASquat · 09/04/2018 23:32

Flowers I'm sorry op this sounds like a horrible situation.
please don't give up on your career. can you juggle things between parents/aupair.
honestly though fwiw, I grew up with this kind of father, do yourself and the kids the best thing you could do and leave him.
go have your career and raise your kids without an alcoholic father/husbands around.

ClownPockets · 09/04/2018 23:37

Speaking from experience, please leave. Unless he is willing to go to rehab and improve.
I left my alcoholic ex 6 years ago and even now I have heart sinking moments when I wonder if he's gone back to drinking after getting sober a while ago.
There was a time when we were together where I came down from an extremely rare lie in to find him drinking a beer at 10am on a Sunday morning looking after our baby. But it took me another child and a lot more years before I finally did what was right for the kids and got us away from him.

Jamiefraserskilt · 09/04/2018 23:46

He got what he wanted. You, scared to leave him with the kids and seek a life outside being subservient to him. I'm in the defer, get rid, reapply camp.

Isetan · 09/04/2018 23:59

Hopefully the possibility of losing out on your preferred career will be the kick up the backside you need to rid yourself of this excuse of a husband.

Defer your application and use the time wisely by improving your situation but I have to agree with the poster who said that having young children, no network and an unreliable partner is incompatible with your career path.

I want to scream at anyone suggesting an au pair, your volatile home life and the intensity of your chosen career is totally unsuitable for an au pair.

You can not trust this man and hopefully you finally realise this and the impact that this has on you and your children. Your denial to date simply hasn’t been fair on your children.

Ruffian · 10/04/2018 00:04

Have to agree, the dc must come first here. You've brought them into this situation and you owe it to them to minimise further damage by breaking away from him and being around while they are still so young.

They will be proud of you for making a better life for them and, when the time is right, for your career.

sameoldsame · 10/04/2018 08:47

@Jamiefraserskilt
This

He has manipulated the situation so that you’re too scared to work, too scared to leave and he has total control AND he can blame it on being addicted, so it’s not even his fault

Bedtimesnacks · 10/04/2018 09:38

Thanks everyone who has replied. Woken up this morning feeling unwell with a bug. Massive anxiety washing over me in waves I feel so sad

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Ruffian · 10/04/2018 09:51

Flowers to you Bedtime you're in a shit situation but you're going to have to deal with the problem - your dh - so you can't have your life upended again.

He was going to leave last summer, this time make sure he does and don't weaken. From that start you can make your other plans.

missbonita · 10/04/2018 10:22

Sweetheart, please please change your situation. This is not your fault but you can change it.

RatherBeRiding · 10/04/2018 10:33

I think you need to get out of your marriage and then have a serious re-think about your career. Even if that means parking it for a few years until the DC are old enough not to need full time child-care.

I get that an au-pair cannot be expected to have sole responsibility of such young children overnight, but give it a few years until they are all of secondary school age and above and the situation will be different.

Don't think of this as the end of your dreams - just a postponement.

But you seriously need to lose the relationship. He isn't a good father and will always be an alcoholic who cannot be trusted.

worstwitch18 · 10/04/2018 10:37

Repeal if you read my whole post you'll see I meant for the training period only.

Bedtime I don't really have any advice I just want to say I'm thinking of you.

Jemimafuckingpuddleduck · 10/04/2018 10:38

From having a partner who was heavily dependant on alcohol for two decades and has now been dry over a year (minus one blip) its a load of shite to think that someone would go from a sobor 6 months to drinking in a public park with your kids in tow...

He has down this with one view in mind to vindictively cause you worry and doubt and drive a wedge between you and your dream job ergo life...

Don't let it work....

RepealMay25th · 10/04/2018 10:39

Repeal if you read my whole post you'll see I meant for the training period only

Yes, and you were still wrong, even more so. An au pair cannot take 3 children for 5 days and nights every week for ten weeks. It not an hour in the morning and the evenings, its all night and full responsibility for while they were at school.