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Husband getting drunk with children . Going to have to give up on my dreams . Please help

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Bedtimesnacks · 09/04/2018 20:59

Posting here for traffic.

Been with husband for almost 16 years . Married nearly 7. Have 4 children . He's always been a drinker and over the years it's caused all sorts of problems. Losing driving licence, violence , verbal abuse and all sorts. All of this aimed at me not the children. Last time he physically laid hands on me was 7 years ago. So nothing recent although he's got in my face a few times in argument. I have never been much of a drinker but as a result of living with one i don't keep drink at home. Don't drink with him on the rare occasion we go out. I don't like my children around alcohol even in a social setting .

When we first met I was young and didn't have a huge network of friends . As I have got older that's changed mainly through a hobby I have . My children sometimes accompany me. Other times I go on my own with friends for the social side afterwards of a few drinks or a meal and a chat etc. This is something he doesn't like. Caused no end of rows and arguments . He's slagged me off to his family over it. Criticizing me as a parent. Saying j am out too much. For the record I do my hobby once a week or fortnight and it doesn't run all year either. This is the only time he would have the children to look after on his own. I cook , clean, do all household duties. Get up with them in the night and so on. For years and years his social outlet was the pub which could be sprung on me at shirt notice. IE. When I was stood with a dinner ready waiting for him to come home and he had decided to detour to the nearest pub. Having small babies in arms or me being pregnant made not one jot of difference to him doing this . But when it's me having an outlet I am deemed to be in the wrong.

He stopped drinking last august after a particularly difficult summer at which time i told him to leave and he was looking for a flat to rent elsewhere. Barring one blip he hadn't touched a drop. This was going from him drinking 6 cans a night every night .

Now all my children are at school full time I want to go back to work. I have applied for a job I have always wanted to do . Passed the online assessments and the training days. This has involved me having to being the gym for months to meet the fitness for it. I am a month or so away from entering vetting. My assessment scores were excellent and there is no doubt I would be good at the job. However the training will involve being on a 10 week residential training course in the north of the country. Only coming home at weekends. The job will involve shifts over 7 days a week / 24 hrs/ 365 days a year rota and it's also a high stress job which carries a degree of responsibility and will leave me unable to contact people during the working day. This was all fine with us due to the stopping of drinking.

However this weekend I went away with a group of friends for two nights. Grandparents had the children on the first night. Husband had them the second night. Turns out he took them to the park in the afternoon and sat there drinking and getting himself pissed up in public view. He rung me up in the evening and as soon as I heard his voice the bottom fell out of my world. I was so upset by the state of him and panic washed over me I went back to my hotel and barring something to eat remained in my room all evening as I wasn't up to going out and being sociable with the worry of what he was doing in my mind.

I now face having to give up and withdraw my application for the career I want. I don't have family help other than my mum who lives an hour's drive away and has health issues. She cannot be my childcare across those sort of working rotas. A childminder can't cover me on night shifts and the length of day shifts etc. I have emailed today and asked how the work life balance works and it's something I have to apply for after the 10 week training course and it's subject to a board agreeing to it . So in short I don't know if I can guarantee it. I feel absolutely trapped. In a panic and I feel sick to be honest. I feel ashamed. I cried down the phone to my mum about it this morning.

Please someone talk to me, hold my hand and help me . I feel so alone 😖

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Dionysus78 · 09/04/2018 21:49

Sounds like he sabotaged on purpose
To be honest, despite my 'give him another chance in the future' speech, I am inclined to agree with this too. I chose to go down the 'give the addict a chance route', as it is a good and legitimate route sometimes. But I was also thinking this a little.
Addicts will self-sabotage their asses off when something comes between themselves and their addiction.

Bedtimesnacks · 09/04/2018 21:50

Just out of interest why do people think he did it on purpose? I doubt he was even thinking about my job. More she's not here, she doesn't know and I can get away with it. He had been out the night before but the children weren't here so I am not bothered about it as me and then didn't have to deal with it. Only assume he got the taste and carried on once they were back

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nursy1 · 09/04/2018 21:50

Hard to say but put the career out of your mind for a few months. You will need that to sort out your kids and stabilise them whilst you separate. I would suggest you see a solicitor and get him out of your house. If he is a problem get an exclusion order and ask for supervised contact with the kids until you are sure him getting drunk whilst with them is out of the question.
Claim benefits then sort out when you are going to do this training.
Think again about the non residential perhaps. You may find traveling too and from not so bad with regards to the assignments. Once your kids are in bed you won’t have him to consider and can spend some time each evening.
I think you might be surprised how many people will want to help you out. I knew a couple like you once. When she finally left him all her friends were so pleased to see she had made the move and were really supportive.

RepealMay25th · 09/04/2018 21:51

leave him by moving to a bigger house, get a nanny and continue with your job prospect

With what money?
It's nice that people are telling OP "you can do it!" but its not very helpful to her to ignore the realities.

Stephthegreat · 09/04/2018 21:52

Sorry to hear your husband is a twat,you should leave him and go it alone with your children.I understand that you want your dream career but really I think your priorities right now should be your children.You need to get them away from your husband because what he’s doing is very damaging to them.Hes also putting them at risk by being drunk and reckless whilst they’re in his care.

I would put your career on hold while you get your life sorted out,get a divorce and look after your children.There will be other opportunities out there in the future and I almost guarantee there will be more of a chance of you following your dream with your husband out of the picture.

nursy1 · 09/04/2018 21:54

Op. I don’t think he did it on purpose as such. Addicts lives are chaotic and they have poor impulse control I’m my experience. I agree with your assessment. Seems to me you spend a lot of time supervising this man and policing his behaviour.
Expect him to go downhill when/ if you split. That will be hard.

Juells · 09/04/2018 21:54

Just out of interest why do people think he did it on purpose?

Because if he was responsible and dependable that weekend you'd have gone on to get a good job and become independent and self confident.

Stephthegreat · 09/04/2018 21:58

Nursy I think you’re right.I don’t think the husband did it on purpose,I think it was more of an opportunity he saw to get hammered and (in his warped mind) lay blame on you because in his head he shouldn’t have to deal with responsibility.

Seriously though,what happens in you give him the benefit of the doubt and he ends up drink driving with the children?Or hurting them?You need to get away from this man and ensure your children are safe.

Queenoftheblitz · 09/04/2018 21:59

Op my friend was recently offered a prison service job at the age of 57, so deferring it could be a good idea.

Dionysus78 · 09/04/2018 22:00

More she's not here, she doesn't know and I can get away with it. He had been out the night before but the children weren't here so I am not bothered about it as me and then didn't have to deal with it. Only assume he got the taste and carried on once they were back

Yeah, I initially thought he did it because he could get away with it, but didn't think about the continuation of the previous night's drinking...Had he woken up hungover, he would have wanted an eye-opener to make him human enough for child-care. Then he went too far, when he (maybe?) intended to pace himself, instead of ending up drunk in the day-time. Understandable (but not really on). But to do it in PUBLIC? Sitting in a park with a four-pack? That is the part that smacks of self-sabotage.

Dontwantanicknamethanks · 09/04/2018 22:02

Would the police force be a better career choice? They may look after their employees better than the prison service? Maybe worth looking into. Though I get the feeling that you becoming a police officer would rile him even more...

Bedtimesnacks · 09/04/2018 22:03

More like deliberately so I don't go away socially. So sad as I had a wonderful weekend but this was always there in the back of my mind niggling and making me worry

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JackietheBackie · 09/04/2018 22:03

I agree with others who say it would be better to pause the work stuff until you get things stabilised at home. Whether he did it deliberately or not, he did it, and he can't be relied on. From everything else you have said, it sounds like you are both unhappy in the relationship.

It is rubbish that you have to put your plans on hold, that you are having to be the responsible one, but I can't see how you can continue at the moment the way things are. I do 13 hour shifts, in no particular pattern and the only way it works is because my husband is studying and is as steady as a rock.

Bedtimesnacks · 09/04/2018 22:07

People are right. My fear.. imagine I am on a night shift and in he walks half hour before i have to leave for work pissed up . What a fucking mess.. I feel I have let them all down. I have failed those kids and I feel ashamed he was out with them in the park where people we know could have seen. The sun was out and he was probably that disengaged with having to look after them he just thought fuck it I can have a drink and they can play . He will say he wasn't drunk and out of order etc. This happened between the hours of about 3-6 pm

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SuperMumTum · 09/04/2018 22:09

I think I would look to defer my application and see if I could get a different job within the prison system such as resettlement work, substance misuse service etc that would be more standard hours for a year or 2 and focus my energy on setting up my life as a single parent. Then try again for the prison service job when things are more settled. Definitely put yours and the kids health and happiness first and leave him. It's horrible trying to have a relationship with alcoholic and sucks everything good away. But you know that. Good luck.

Dionysus78 · 09/04/2018 22:11

OP, I am kind of glad that you suggested that he did it to get at you having a social life, as everything other posters said now seems much more sensible. I rescind my message in which I say 'give addicts a chance.' He now sounds officially like a bum hole. Ltb! And again, sorry for no practical advice Flowers.

nursy1 · 09/04/2018 22:22

Honestly op leaving him would be the best thing in the long term. Especially for your kids. They will have your example to follow then, not his. Who knows perhaps he will eventually sort himself out but his choices are not your responsibility.
My friend was the daughter of an alcoholic. She described walking home from school one day with group of friends and her Dad was on the other side of the road drunk and shouting her name, waving at her. Her friends were saying “who’s that?” she just said she had no idea, “ some weird bloke” and suggested they run away. Spent her childhood as the oldest protecting her Mum and siblings from the worst effects.
Take your kids and make a life for them and you. X

HarryLovesDraco · 09/04/2018 22:23

It's harsh but you really need to put the career progression on hold just now. Firstly you need to get the shit out of your house and your life. Focus on that and the kids first.

missbonita · 09/04/2018 22:25

You've summed it up yourself. You will be leaving for work one day, sooner rather than later by the sounds of it and he'll either not come home or be pissed.

Can you speak to the course providers and ask for a delay? Give yourself a few months to leave him, get care sorted and then move forward with your career?

Good luck Flowers

Mintychoc1 · 09/04/2018 22:27

I think the job is the least of your worries. You're married to a violent drunk. I certainly wouldn't leave such young children with someone like that. No dream job is worth messing up my kids lives. Leave the violent alcoholic and get out with your kids.

SnorkFavour · 09/04/2018 22:27

OP, you asked why people thought he did it on purpose and I must admit, I did think he did as well. You said earlier, the problem is if I say anything to him he will either twist it round on me. I went away etc etc and it's ok for me to do something but not him and so this shows that he IS resentful, which means that it's quite plausible for him to have felt resentful and irritated by your 'freedom' and so he may have drunk to get back at you if you see what I mean.

I do think that your take on it is just as plausible, ie that he got the taste of it the night before and just continued but the revenge thing might have come into it.

He's an appalling role model for your children and I know it sounds harsh, but I really think you should consider trying to find a way to go on without him. As you're renting, could you consider moving near to where the course is? You really should try for the childrens sake.

Well done on your brilliant efforts so far, in really difficult circumstances!

Squeegle · 09/04/2018 22:29

I have been where you are. I agree it’s the not knowing that is so difficult. The inconsistency.
Step one is to get him separated from you. Step two is work. It’s impossible to work unless you can get help with looking after kids. Get some RL support. Stay strong. Don’t believe that you are unreasonable. For me al anon was a good support. Sorry you are going through this, it’s hell but there are others like you so don’t feel you’re alone. Flowers

SallysTeaPot · 09/04/2018 22:30

Op you haven't let anyone down, he has Flowers

Squeegle · 09/04/2018 22:31

By the way- don’t feel shame- it’s his shame not yours. As soon as I was able to talk about my ex’s drink problems, everything became a lot easier; it was while I was covering them up and feeling ashamed that it was really bad

Avasarala · 09/04/2018 22:37

Do you have any friends with kids you're really close with? And who would help you out?

A friend of mine (friends for 26 years) is a single mum and works nights one week a month. Her kids just stay with me and my kids during that time. We live close enough and they are old enough that they can go home after school and do homework etc, then come here after dinner and I just do breakfast and packed lunches and "off to school you go" stuff. But, I'd have no problem if they had to come for dinner and everyrhing too.

Is there anyone would could do that for you? Even in the short term while you make plans after starting the job.

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