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Am I wrong for eating a sacred animal?

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MilkyCoffeeAndSkinnySyrup · 05/04/2018 00:22

My DH is Hindu so he does not eat beef (he eats other meat though), but I eat beef because it has always been part of my diet (I am British). He always makes me feel guilty for cooking it and even having it in the fridge/freezer, but I always cook alternative meals for him so that he still has dinner! He says why am I bringing it into the house, why do I have to eat it in front of him, why can't I just live without it etc! AIBU to think that he cannot stop me from eating what I want?

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ibicus · 05/04/2018 16:20

@ILostItInTheEarlyNineties I think you can draw up a fair parallel. It's both beliefs and morals. I don't see why religion should or shouldn't justify it anymore that just having it as a belief (that it's wrong to eat animals).

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 05/04/2018 16:22

I think that there is a fine line between wanting friends and family to respect your vegan lifestyle ibacus and preaching to people in a way that's verging on sanctimonious. Sad

Some people believe that it's the natural order of the world to have predator/prey relationships between species and do not have an issue with consuming or using animal products. Their beliefs deserve as much respect as yours.

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 05/04/2018 16:24

Yes fair point though. There are similar motivations to not eating meat whether moral/ethical or religious in this example I suppose.

HobnobBob · 05/04/2018 16:28

I think that there is a fine line between wanting friends and family to respect your vegan lifestyle ibacus and preaching to people in a way that's verging on sanctimonious.

^^This. Live how you like, but don’t come in my house and be disgusted by my leather sofa (feel free to sit on the floor).

bingoLounge · 05/04/2018 16:28

"I was having a respectful discussion with friends."

No.

"You are ridiculing me."

Yes.

"it's unlikely people [like] you and people like me would ever be friends"

YES. Because you are a rude guest.

ibicus · 05/04/2018 16:33

People get super defensive about vegans and vegetarians sharing their beliefs so I expect people are gonna have a go at me (which I believe stems from the fact that deep down people know it's wrong). But I'll still share my opinion. And I'm not rude about about it I just share it, the other poster was actually being rude. I do have the very unpopular opinion though that I don't respect other people choice to eat meat and other animals bodily secretions (apart from babies of all species and the milk intended for them) though again I don't force it on other people but I just politely discuss, because I strongly believe in animal rights and I respect the animals rights to life and a happy one at that over respecting other people's right to eat them. Anyway this is not what the poster was asking so I apologise for the slight thread takeover.

ibicus · 05/04/2018 16:34

And FYI @HobnobBob I don't sit on leather sofas and would happily sit on the floor.

HobnobBob · 05/04/2018 16:35

Well I didn’t think you would.Hmm

ibicus · 05/04/2018 16:36

@bingoLounge it's not rude to have respectful discussions it's rude to ridicule other people's opinions which happens time and time again when animal rights are brought up in discussion.

HobnobBob · 05/04/2018 16:39

Thing is, are you the one bringing up the animal rights discussion every time? Nothing wrong with sharing your opinion providing it’s not the only topic of conversation and you don’t do it every time you see your friends, because it’s dull. Just like anything that someone goes on and on about.

bingoLounge · 05/04/2018 16:50

"it's not rude to have respectful discussions"

That depends on the situation.

"Leather disgusts me it's another beings skin and I do tell people that. I was having the conversation yesterday at a friends house and the own leather things"

That's rude. It's you not understanding this that means I would not want you in my house.

"I strongly believe in animal rights and I respect the animals rights to life and a happy one"

I believe that we were born as apex predators and that many animals and their bodily secretions exist as a bounty of the Earth.

More importantly, believe that anyone who comes into my home and criticises that or makes me feel uncomfortable is not a friend and can fuck off.

I also believe that anyone who makes their guests feel uncomfortable is not a friend and can fuck off.

BertrandRussell · 05/04/2018 16:50

It’s not rude to have a respectful conversation with your friends about animal rights. It is rude to tell them they are putting bodily secretions in their tea.

And it is rude to mention it every time.

Back to the OP. It would be considerate not to have beef in the house if he would rather you didn’t. It depends a lot on the power dynamic and how he asks.

QuackPorridgeBacon · 05/04/2018 16:50

ibicus It is rude to go into someone’s house and comment negatively on what their furniture is made from. I don’t understand why wouldn’t just be quiet about it? I wouldn’t walk in and complain that you were cooking a meal without meat, or that you were wearing something recycled or whatever. It’s just not needed.

QuackPorridgeBacon · 05/04/2018 16:51

And if you think people don’t know what leather is and need unformed you are mistaken. You just sound like you want to be one up on them.

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 05/04/2018 16:53

I don't know ibacus it's veering away from being a respectful debate if you're calling your friends awful and labelling leather, milk and so on as disgusting? I'd feel very uncomfortable about wearing leather shoes, drinking my white coffee or inviting you into my home if you are expressing disgust at my choices. Hopefully you are more tactful in real life and don't ram your views down people's throats.
I think it's a bit rude to insist no leather clothes are worn in your house and must be removed at the door!

Hobnob I hope you don't have a wool carpet Grin

ibicus · 05/04/2018 17:02

@ILostItInTheEarlyNineties I've never called my friends awful you're putting words in my mouth but when it comes up in discussion (sometimes by me sometimes by others- just like everything else) I will tell them what I think. Think it's a tad hypocritical of everybody to say that I should be ok with leather if it's in other people's houses but I shouldn't say I don't want it in mine... Would you be uncomfortable to have someone in your house who had a different political opinion to you and expressed their disgust at something a party you supported had done. Doubt it and there's not much difference but I don't know you. Don't know what to say to the other comments. Anyway I've said what I think. Ridicule and disagree away.

OfaFrenchmind2 · 05/04/2018 17:05

ibicus Sheesh, did you visit Youtube recently?

Springsnake · 05/04/2018 17:08

Not read the full thread...but ,yes I think you are wrong..I think if you ate it out of the house without him knowing ,that's ok.but by eating it in his home,you are basically saying you don't respect his values....in my opinion anyway😁

wellhonestly · 05/04/2018 17:21

YABU and really quite offensive to your DH as for him it's a religious matter, can't you stop distressing him like that?

SarBear34 · 05/04/2018 17:24

Tell him to stop going on, you can eat what you want. You do not share the same religion!
It’s a bloody cow!

wellhonestly · 05/04/2018 17:27

Sorry OP, hadn't RTFT, I see you have decided how to proceed.
Flowers

bingoLounge · 05/04/2018 17:27

"Would you be uncomfortable to have someone in your house who had a different political opinion to you and expressed their disgust at something a party you supported had done."

Yes.

I'd tell them to fuck off too.

Do you really have no idea how to function socially?

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