78 pensioner arrested for fatally stabbing burglar in his own home

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2 burglars break into a 78 year old man’s home armed with screwdriver.

Forces owner into the kitchen whilst one of them goes upstairs.

A fight ensues, leaving pensioner with injuries to his arm and burglary is fatally stabbed. Perhaps with his own screwdriver although this is TBC.

Police arrest pensioner.

On what planet is this right?

Pádraig Nally. Not McNally. Having a dopey day.

Chuckling at 'lure them in and clump them'. Grand.

whereas before the onus was on the individual whose home had been intruded to escape by any means necessary.

I'm sure in E&W law, a homeowner is never expected to leave their home to defend it (whereas out and about there might be a presumption you could have fled, rather than fought).

I still hope this poor man will be able to sue the estate of his aggressor and somehow get compensation for all the distress and pain and suffering he is going through because someone decided to break in and commit whatever crime they had planned.

He shouldn't see his life ruined because of someone else like that. He might never feel safe in his own home ever again, he deserve compensation. The criminal might be dead, but every penny he got should go to the victims. If they don't want it, they can give it to charity, but criminals must be held financially responsible for their action too, and if the law doesn't support that yet it's not too late to change it.

I still hope this poor man will be able to sue the estate of his aggressor and somehow get compensation for all the distress and pain and suffering he is going through because someone decided to break in and commit whatever crime they had planned.

No argument from me.

I still hope this poor man will be able to sue the estate of his aggressor

I thought only the state could attempt to seize the proceeds of crime?

@dgrossetti I’m in Ireland so maybe it is a little different to the uk. The onus before 2011 was on the occupant to escape- now they can defend themselves including making the initial blow.

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I still hope this poor man will be able to sue the estate of his aggressor

Yeah,...cos he sounds like a man who has lots of money and assets?

He's a career criminal that keeps getting caught and jailed - sadly, his 'estate' will either be nothing, or squirrelled away in cash or gold somewhere. It's fairly unlikely he's got a string of ISA's and a P60.

For previous posters mentioning inquests, these normally take place after any criminal trial has taken place. It's likely that an inquest will be opened and adjourned until the CPS have made a decision on whether to charge the householder (and/or the other burglar).

If it results in a fatality it will not necessarily be classed as a murder, whereas before the onus was on the individual whose home had been intruded to escape by any means necessary

That didn’t sound right to me, so I looked it up. And it’s not right.

The act you’re referring to did not change the law at all...it simply codified an already existing common law position. It still remains the case that if there is a reasonable alternative to killing someone, then you are expected to take it.

“Defence” is an action taken, not a state of mind. And for it to be a legal justification to kill, there needs to be an actual reason why you took it. In Nally’s case his fear was overwhelming because of previous events & that’s what eventually had him acquitted. At no point did anyone suggest that having a burglar in your house is ample justification for shooting them, even though they are unarmed and crouching before you when you shot them (as was the case there).

Apparently according to a relative he was
a "gentle" giant. If he was gentle I'd dread to come across a thug. I could be wildly wrong but last time I checked "gentle" people big or small did not break into houses brandishing screwdrivers.

They always say that, spider. It's sickening. He was absolute scum and the worlds a better place without him in it.

Yep. Scumbag.

'scumbag' is such a hate speech pronoun.

I've just seen a news update, the police have said that the pensioner faces no further action. They were able to establish that it was self-defence. So no more hysterics needed.

"'scumbag' is such a hate speech pronoun."

Goes with "rot in hell".

Hither Green 'burglary death' suspect to face no action www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-43676359

So perhaps the mob can put down their pitchforks now.

Yay im delighted.

How about fucking scumbag? As a pp ssid, world is a better place without him.

'scumbag' is such a hate speech pronoun.

If precious snowflake burglars don't like being called names, perhaps they could try not breaking into people's homes? Just a thought!

P.s. Also, not a pronoun.

Oh great news.

At least it's one less scum bag to burgle any more pensioners

They were able to establish that it was self-defence

Good.

But I hope the hard of thinking understand that, in order to establish that, he had to be arrested, held and questioned.

That's a good result, glad it didn't take too long to reach that conclusion.

I've just seen a news update, the police have said that the pensioner faces no further action. They were able to establish that it was self-defence. So no more hysterics needed.

Good news indeed. :) I hope he recovers quickly from this whole awful ordeal.