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78 pensioner arrested for fatally stabbing burglar in his own home

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SShaming · 04/04/2018 12:20

2 burglars break into a 78 year old man’s home armed with screwdriver.

Forces owner into the kitchen whilst one of them goes upstairs.

A fight ensues, leaving pensioner with injuries to his arm and burglary is fatally stabbed. Perhaps with his own screwdriver although this is TBC.

Police arrest pensioner.

On what planet is this right?

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Babyplaymat · 04/04/2018 12:35

Life trumps property. Of course they have to investigate.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 04/04/2018 12:35

Id shake his hand if I met him. Ridding the world a scum bag cunt. I have no sympathy what so ever for him. You invade someone's home. The place where they have worked damned hard for. You take your chances.
Had he lived and been tried. How long would he have got 2 years with half knocked off or a suspended sentence or The famous community service.

Nicknacky · 04/04/2018 12:36

He may well be cuffed, depends what the force policy is for handcuffing persons coming into the custody suite.

And it goes without saying he will be treated properly.

Ledderwoman · 04/04/2018 12:36

I wouldn't think twice about terminating a burglar in my house

Babyplaymat · 04/04/2018 12:37

And at 78 he may not be a frail old dude, my dad sure as hell isn't. That isn't to say he doesn't deserve sympathy, I just mean '78 yr old pensioner' creates a certain image which may not be accurate.

Anyone broke into my house I'd do my best not to aggravate the situation and then claim on insurance.

MissionItsPossible · 04/04/2018 12:37

There was a similar case when a man injured a burglar with a cricket bat after he held their family hostage. He was jailed but immmediately released after public outcry. Let’s hope similar happens here.

TomRavenscroft · 04/04/2018 12:38

Tony Martin shot the guy in the back as he was trying to make his getaway. Not at all comparable.

Jobjobjob · 04/04/2018 12:39

This is nothing like the Tony Martin case - the guy was running away and Tony Martin shot him in the back, so not in self defence.

How do you know that? How do you know the intruder wasn't leaving the premises?

Of course he has to be questioned, otherwise we would have vigilantes everywhere!

Let's see what happens after the questioning and not make assumptions?

frigginell · 04/04/2018 12:39

How could the police determine that this was a case of self-defense without a proper investigation? How could a proper investigation be performed without questioning those directly involved? And why would it be better for the householder to be asked for his account informally, instead of under caution with appropriate legal support, considering the gravity of what has happened? What if they'd only asked him for a witness statement, and he completely dropped himself in it because he didn't have a solicitor?

This way protects everybody.

MrsJoshDun · 04/04/2018 12:39

Well hopefully during the police interview he will say that he was scared for his life, he thought he was going to be killed, he was defending himself and he won’t be charged.

But guess the police have to interview him to make sure he doesn’t say that the bloke was trying to get away but he was so angry he wanted to stab him to death rather than let him leave.

Bimbaloo · 04/04/2018 12:41

Someone died so of course an arrest has to be made in the first instance. Honestly!

ikeepaforkinmypurse · 04/04/2018 12:41

it's not the police I am blaming, it's the stupid outrageous rules they have to follow!

This country is a joke, this poor man should get a medal, not be arrested. Anyone trespassing on your property immediately removes any right he might have had. We dare looking down at the USA, but London stabbings are the worst they have ever been, innocent people cannot defend themselves. It makes me so hungry.

I hope this poor man will not have health problems following his ordeal.

QueenAravisOfArchenland · 04/04/2018 12:41

We don't execute people for burglary in this country, and that's the way I like it.

If it was truly self-defense in the legal sense, then he will be released/acquitted. But the police can't simply go "oh, you say it was self defence? No problem then, sorry to have troubled you, mind how you go now". A man is dead and that has to be investigated properly.

cjt110 · 04/04/2018 12:41

And at 78 he may not be a frail old dude, my dad sure as hell isn't. Nor were any of those who robbed Hatton Garden and if I recall correctly, they were all OAPs...

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 04/04/2018 12:42

Baby. As far I'm concerned it's nothing to do with his age or Wether or not he was frail. I'd be saying the same if he were 25 year old body builder.

ZibbidooZibbidooZibbidoo · 04/04/2018 12:42

If he resisted arrest and refused to go with them he’d had to have been cuffed.

78 year old pensioner doesn’t mean mild mannered gent you know! Plenty of 78 year olds are very unpleasant people. He may not be but equally he may be.

frigginell · 04/04/2018 12:42

It's incredible that some posters think that invading somebody's home, in itself, deserves a death sentence! And I'm not even strongly anti death penalty.

Gromance02 · 04/04/2018 12:43

My beloved grandmother was never the same after her home was burgled and she wasn't even in the house. I have about as much sympathy for burglers as I do for rapists. And yes, I do mean that and have been a victim of the latter.

Nicknacky · 04/04/2018 12:43

It’s not stupid rules at all. The police can’t just turn up to a scene with a dead body, take a persons word for it there and then, scoop the body up and leave.

Self defence is a recognised defence in law but investigation has to be conducted to ascertain the circumstances.

I’m astounded people just blatantly would accept a persons verbal account when there is a stabbed body lying on the ground.

ikeepaforkinmypurse · 04/04/2018 12:44

*angry
not hungry Blush

you can tell I am in a cafe

Nicknacky · 04/04/2018 12:44

I don’t think anyone has sympathy for burglars, just are saying it is rightly being investigated.

Ledderwoman · 04/04/2018 12:45

I don't think it deserves a death penalty but I DO think that once you enter a person's home, armed with intent to rob them you wave goodbye to your human rights as you enter. Good riddance.

stitchglitched · 04/04/2018 12:46

I'm anti death penalty as I don't believe the state should kill anyone. But I don't hold a frightened homeowner asleep in their bed when armed intruders break in to the same standard. I have no issue in that case with deadly force being used, even in anticipation of an attack. Nobody should have to stand around waiting to see if an intruder is going to hurt you before being allowed to defend themselves.

ikeepaforkinmypurse · 04/04/2018 12:47

I’m astounded people just blatantly would accept a persons verbal account when there is a stabbed body lying on the ground.

there is a happy medium between starting an investigation and arresting someone! Of course it's a stupid rule. Replace burglar by rapist, would they need to arrest the rape victim who successfully defended themselves?

Again, not blaming the police, but the system is outrageous.

SoupDragon · 04/04/2018 12:47

Had he lived and been tried. How long would he have got 2 years with half knocked off or a suspended sentence or The famous community service.

Yeah, death is a far better punishment 🙄

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