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78 pensioner arrested for fatally stabbing burglar in his own home

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SShaming · 04/04/2018 12:20

2 burglars break into a 78 year old man’s home armed with screwdriver.

Forces owner into the kitchen whilst one of them goes upstairs.

A fight ensues, leaving pensioner with injuries to his arm and burglary is fatally stabbed. Perhaps with his own screwdriver although this is TBC.

Police arrest pensioner.

On what planet is this right?

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stitchglitched · 04/04/2018 22:50

Thanks, I didn't think so but was confused by posts saying he had murdered someone and what he could plead at his trial.

Nicknacky · 04/04/2018 22:50

😂 true!

DailyWailSucksSnails · 04/04/2018 22:50

"Meanwhile you can kill someone and get away with just 61 days in prison but that thread gets very little interest"

510 posts is "very little interest"? Confused

Nicknacky · 04/04/2018 22:52

ikeep you said my earlier posts were different from other cops posts. What cops?

PyongyangKipperbang · 04/04/2018 22:52

I see that the pensioner has been named, which is wrong imo.

If it turns out that it was self defence then he was the victim and deserves anonymity surely?

As much as I think this should be deal with properly (see my PP) I dont agree with this.

Nicknacky · 04/04/2018 22:53

Or rather from what they say, what are they saying that’s different to us on this post?

ikeepaforkinmypurse · 04/04/2018 22:54

What cops? cops I speak with in real life... Allow me not to disclose their full ID on here Grin

StarbucksSmarterSister · 04/04/2018 22:55

Tony Martin didn't just shoot the burglar in the back. He went back into his house and didn't call the police until the next day, despite knowing the boy was hit . The boy, meanwhile, bled to death. I have zero sympathy for Martin and incidentally I've been burgled during the night, and yes it's horrendous. It still doesn't give people the right to kill a burglar.

As far as this case is concerned, I'll wait to hear the facts, not tabloid speculation.

Nicknacky · 04/04/2018 22:55

So you have spoken today with cops about this topic.

I can assure you that in conversation my language might be different, but we would still all expect an investigation to be carried out before assuming what happened.

Nicknacky · 04/04/2018 22:56

Bollocks, forgot to say that was to ikeep

TabbyMack · 04/04/2018 22:57

He is not legally a victim even if it was self-defence, Pyongyang - except of burglary and (maybe) assault and there’s no automatic right to anonymity for those crimes.

In terms of killing the intruder man, he will never be the victim even if he was acting in self-defence.

PyongyangKipperbang · 04/04/2018 22:58

OK, didnt know that.

CuckingFunt1987 · 04/04/2018 22:58

It's a disgrace . He should be allowed to protect himself and his home !!! I hope he is ok and gets let off . The bastards who broke in are to blame

PyongyangKipperbang · 04/04/2018 22:59

Obv I meant a victim of a crime as in the burglary and perhaps assault, not the victim of being forced to kill someone iykwim!

BertrandRussell · 04/04/2018 22:59

No-he hasn't been charged. Presumably he will be, and at the trial we will find out if it was self defence or not. You are, I think, allowed to use "reasonable force".

Incidentally, amid all this "hailing him as a hero" stuff- are you considering the toll that knowinv he had killed someone would have on

clumsyduck · 04/04/2018 23:01

No sympathy , you break into someone's house it's the risk you take . End of

TabbyMack · 04/04/2018 23:01

He should be allowed to protect himself and his home

By killing people? Fucking good thing that we don’t all have guns in this country because I wouldn’t trust most of you lot to act responsibly at all.

Bluelady · 04/04/2018 23:02

The lynch mob doesn't care about anything except wailing about the poor frail pensioner.

Who looks like a real bruiser with his two pints of Guinness.

BertrandRussell · 04/04/2018 23:04

I wonder what it feels like to have the sort of brain that thinks it OK to stab someone to death, and that the person doing it will just brush it off and carry on as if nothing had happened.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 04/04/2018 23:05

Oh I don't know, maybe the 2 or so I attend pretty much every week?

Ha!
Two a week? What about the rest of them?

And it's not my place to tell you how to solve them, surely they teach you that in your training.

TabbyMack · 04/04/2018 23:05

Pyong People are named in open court as victims of burglary, assault etc so there’s no right to anonymity if they are adults. That’s not to say that the police & CPS etc. can’t ask for it if it’s considered necessary, but it’s not assumed in the way that it is for sexual offences or juvenile victims.

Nicknacky · 04/04/2018 23:07

Even if he doesn’t get charged, he will live every day that someone died as a result of his actions (no matter how justified). Everytime he walks into his kitchen he will be reminded of it. It’s horrendous.

Very few people can just shake that off.

Nicknacky · 04/04/2018 23:08

chardonny what’s your suggestion if you are so brilliant? Feel free to make suggestions that might help in the investigation of crime.

Voice0fReason · 04/04/2018 23:14

When Oscar Pistorius phoned the Police, he told them that he had just shot what he believed to be an intruder. Should the Police have just taken his word for it or were they right to investigate what happened?

Sometimes, just occasionally, when a person kills someone, they lie about what happened (shock horror). Until it is properly investigated we won't know the details.
If he killed the intruder in self-defence, which does sound very plausible at this stage, then he won't be charged.

The dead man is someone's son. Maybe wife, father, brother. They deserve to have his death investigated no matter what he has done. That is what civilised societies do.

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