To be devastated at the demise of the Labour Party, and to wonder how anyone can look at themselves in the mirror if they vote for Corbyn now?

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Just that really.

Been a Labour supporter all my life, til the last election. Because hell will freeze over before I will vote for Jeremy Corbyn.

I am literally devastated at the demise of the Labour party, that has been systematically destroyed from the inside out, by Corbyn and his cronies, and by Corbyn's pathetic behaviour. From his denial of bad behaviour from his party, to the way he shuts down anyone who challenges him. (Including reporters, and his own people ..... if they don't agree with everything he says, he sacks them.)

In the last election, for the first time ever in my life, I was unable to vote, because I am not voting for Conservatives. (Even so, if I HAD to vote by law, I would vote for Conservatives before I would vote for Labour.)

The Labour party is dying a slow and painful death, and is a laughing stock. First of all we have the standing joke that is Corbyn, with his bizarre 'extreme-left' bollocks, and refusing to answer any questions that don't suit him, .......'Mr Corbyn what about the antisemitism in in your party?' 'YES it is a nice day isn't it? Thank you, goodbye!' Fucking twit!

And then we have his ludicrous and laughable cronies... Diane 'can't count for toffee' Abbott, Monroe 'bigoted ranty' Bergdorf, and now Eddie fucking Izzard in a dress.

Even people I know who were obsessive Corbynites a year or so ago, are cringing with embarrassment now, as he turns the party into more of a laughing stock every day. And as I said in the thread title, how can anyone POSSIBLY support him and the Labour party now?

That's it really. I am literally so gutted at the demise of my party.

Until Corbyn fucks off and takes his cronies with him, Labour is dead to me. And I know a LOT of people who think the same!

R.I.P. The Labour Party. 😢😢😢

I’m not so sure that the vote will go up tbh. I have heard lots of people express similar views. Voters in the middle ground who might have voted Labour probably won’t now.

I don’t dislike Corbyn because I can’t cope with his radical policies btw. I don’t actually think they are particularly left wing. I dislike him because under his leadership the Labour Party will never ever. Form a government and in the meantime the Tories are wrecking the country

I agree and it is a bizarre day when anyone who criticises Labor is immediately accused of being a Tory.

I work in a Labour grassroots area, they would never vote Tory but lots of them are very vocal about the shambles that they feel the Labour party is now.

I'll still be voting Labour. I quite like Jezza.

I've been a labour party member for most of my life. I left the party over Iraq and rejoined once Blair and Brown had gone, although I had no faith whatsoever in Ed Miliiband.

I voted for Corbyn in the leadership elections as I genuinely believed he was the best candidate. I am very disappointed in him at the moment as I feel he hasn't addressed the issues of anti-semitic and gender.

However, the Conservative party are dismantling the welfare state, destroying the NHS and do not appear to have any real plan for Brexit. I would rather put my energy into working to improve the Labour party than vote for the Tories.

Agree with you about Corbyn and his cabal. It's now becoming crystal clear why the PLP wanted him to go. Brexit, Russia and anti-Semitism.

But lay off Eddie Izzard. He's not a Corbynite. He's soft Left and will be a voice of moderation on the NEC.

'Eddie fucking Izzard in a dress' is nasty. Makes you sound like a bigoted Tory.

The lib dems are not Labour. How on earth did you come to that conclusion?

They're the only party saying anything sensible at the moment.

Daily Fail is written all over this OP.

Diane 'can't count for toffee' Abbott, you mock someone who was having a diabetic hypo.

...and now Eddie fucking Izzard in a dress. So?

You don't sound remotely like a Labour supporter OP or a nice person come to think of it.

@ohforfoxsakereturns

I’ve voted Labour all my life, I have cancelled my party membership. I don’t want to be part of it.

This. ^

I know a number of people (aged 40-60 y.o.) who were 'Labour til I die,' fully paid-up members of the party, very active politically, and passionate about the campaigns when there was an election etc etc, who have just given up on Labour, cancelled their membership, and thrown in the towel. They are sick of Corbyn, and say hell will freeze over before they will vote for Labour now.

I also know a number of people in their 20's and 30's, who thought Corbyn was a God 1-2 years back, who are very upset and disillusioned now, and realise he is not what they thought he was at ALL. Including several young members of my family. These young people who thought he was amazing a year and a half or so ago, actually loathe him now, as they realise he is not what he made himself out to be.

If he doesn't go, the party will be dead within a year. It's crumbling fast, and losing loyal lifelong supporters at a rapid rate.

With the utter shit show of ineptitude that is the Tory party by rights the Labour Party should be comfortably ahead in the opinion polls. But they're not. I'd rather drink bleach than vote Tory but I have no urge to vote for Labour in its current guise. Misogynistic brocialists, minimising of concerns about anti semitism, and an attitude to Brexit that seems Kipper like? No thanks.

And people can bore off with the 'Daily Mail' bollocks.

As has been said, it's pathetic to accuse someone of being a bigot and a tory just coz they are fucked off with Corbyn.

I agree. I was unsure about Corbyn from the off but I couldn't really justify it beyond a feeling that he reminded me of student politics...no nuance, no maturity, no insight, just a blind campaigner for anything that he thought would make him appear rebellious, no matter what the actual facts and impact might be. I couldn't really prove it, though, so I put it down to my own projections and issues.

Hot damn I wish I'd listened to my instincts.

I have no idea how I'd vote now but I absolutely cannot vote for anyone led by that moron. Imagine what the fucking murals would look like.

I’m not going to vote for a party who tell me men are women. They can stand there until they’re blue in the face but they won’t change my mind.

I’m never going to vote Tory so there’s no one left for me to vote for either.

ScipioAfricanus and PsychedelicSheep

So you were turned off by:

National Minimum Wage (ending people like me legally getting £1 an hour)
Rises in numbers of police, doctors and nurses
School funding doubling and schools modernised
Peace in Northern Ireland
Devolution of power to Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales
Paternity leave
Child benefit increased
Sure Start
Winter fuel payments to pensioners
Free TV licences for pensioners
Free bus fares for pensioners
More teachers and teaching assistants
Taking one million pensioners out of poverty (my mum among them)
More than half a million children out of relative poverty (my family among them)
Child tax credits
Civil partnerships - a stepping stone to marriage
Modernising of council homes (my mum’s among them)
No fox hunting
Free nursery places for 3/4 year olds

You didn’t vote for any of these?

Well as my family and many others who'd been living in poverty under the Tories benefitted from Tony Blair and New Labour, I can only say thanks for nowt.

You do know that the last Labour manifesto vowed to keep at least £7billion of George Osborne's planned austerity cuts, don't you?

I pity the poor souls struggling under UC and bedroom tax these days that they don't have anyone to put their hopes in.

I know what you mean - I am a Labour Party member and this close to leaving. I would still vote for my local labour mp who is excellent. It’s making me feel really apathetic about the Labour Party though. We’ve got council elections soon and I can see me not bothering to vote as feel so meh about the whole thing.

I think there will be a lot of disappointment when people finally realise that Corbyn supports Brexit.

And I am NOT A TORY.

Good article in the Guardian by lovely Hadley Freeman about the protest over the Labour Party and anti semitism. She makes some very salient points.

Sorry can't do links.

Well said @veronicalodge

Also, it's both laughable and disturbing, how Corbyn was very anti EU (for a long time,) and then this year decided he is PRO EU!

Just coz he thinks it's what his supporters want to hear!

Anyone who is even THINKING of voting for him, needs to give their head a wobble! The man literally cannot be trusted.

Does anyone SERIOUSLY want this man to be running the country?

God help us.

I loved Jeremy Corbyn but now with the anti-semitism and women’s rights stuff, he’s lost my vote.

We are voting for liberal, democratic socialist polices, that will provide our kids with a much more brighter future

Policies that will be pie in the bloody sky once the Brexit that Corbyn is enabling hits. I think it was Cable who said of Corbyn 'you can't claim to be improving poor people's lives when you're complicit in making them poorer'. Or words to that effect.

Even I’m shocked at this;

Jeremy Corbyn faces a deepening scandal after a Sunday Times investigation found racist, anti-semitic, misogynistic, violent and abusive messages among social media support groups whose members include 12 senior Labour staffers

What’s happening to the Labour Party?

And what's all this crap about Jeremy Corbyn wanting to return British infrastructure and services to British ownership? Surely everyone knows that our railways, power stations, national grid, water supplies, mail system, NHS, police services, and criminal justice system are obviously best off owned by a bunch of profit-seeking corporations and foreign governments

@BamALamA

You are utterly deluded if you think Corbyn would actually have delivered all of the stuff you have listed. We would have been lucky to have got a FIFTH of that.

Really OP you don’t normally vote conservative......are you sure? You wouldn’t be telling porky pies there would you? This definitely isn’t a bashing Labour supporters thread at all is it op?

I can't believe anyone honestly thought that Corbyn was amazing it's mind boggling.

The difference between now and the past is simple, we know more. Information is available constantly, in the past you only found out what was printed in the press or on telly.

However, the figures on child poverty in the UK horrify me, the constant cutting to the bone of anything that supports our children/ next generation. It isn't a personality contest it's an election and Corbyn is temporary.