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Supernorthernme · 01/04/2018 00:04

The thread continues....if it hasn't continued elsewhere! @Lateforall it was me who questioned Lobella loves depression wears lippy campaign. I get that the idea is that being a bit glam might be a way of coping. And i have been guilty of putting my face on to carry on in the world. I get that not everyone with pnd is sat at home in pjs unshowered with greasy hair. But I just find the whole thing so false on her account - maybe that is because I know of her in real life.

But I think so many of them have massivley over exaggerated aspects of their lives because it sells. Whether that is FODs clumsy parenting or whatever. But it really doesnt sit well

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ABuckToothedGirlinLuxembourg · 04/04/2018 15:32

It does need #AD

TheChocolateTeapot · 04/04/2018 15:33

Yep, @mrscampbell - badmother is a star 🌟

PavlovaPrincess · 04/04/2018 15:33

I assume there will have been an agreement that she features the car in return for the free loan of it and it blatantly is an ad but technically seeing as she has made it very clear that Mercedes loaned her the car in the text then I see no need for a #ad.

So, it's blatantly an ad but you see no need for it to say it's an ad?

I think the ASA disagrees on that one.

Sofialemon · 04/04/2018 15:49

@Mumofkids

@CadyHeron was right, Mumsnetters did actually look online to find out details such as the home address, the kids school, how much they sold and paid for houses etc. I find that quite pathetic, but to then put that info on here (which they did) is disgusting.

The instamums themselves hadn't disclosed this info. They had put enough info out there to find it out which imo is silly but then to be honest with enough sleuthing I think anyone vaguely in the public eye would be easy to find personal info on.

CadyHeron · 04/04/2018 15:56

Thanks sofia,thought they had.

jamoncrumpets · 04/04/2018 16:03

Nobody revealed any addresses or schools. Concerns were raised about how easily these things could be found out. AFAIK the only slightly more specific thing mentioned was the town/city a few grammers lived in - which is obvious from their feeds anyway.

Pointing out security holes is NOT stalking. I personally have never googled anyone's address or looked up a school, I might have pointed out that if I wished to do so then that information is readily available. It's not illegal to look someone up, btw. It's illegal to, yknow, stalk them and act like a mad motherfucker.

miamimice · 04/04/2018 16:08

If you are referring (again) to MOD, there was some info put on a thread which could have made the address identifiable and other MN users reported it and asked for it to be taken down very quickly and many people said they thought that was wrong to share that kind of info on MN. I haven't seen names of schools or actual addresses. Please don't tar everybody with the same brush, it is unhelpful and just causing the divides to be even greater.

CadyHeron · 04/04/2018 16:11

Not referring to anyone in particular, just the fact that people have been googling details, speculating finances/family circumstances etc on here, but can't see the glaring double standards that when stuff like that gets called out it's not "setting the dogs on someone" if it's someone you deem well known but it is if it's a randomer.
It's all a bit setting the dogs on people.

Mumofkids · 04/04/2018 16:14

@cadyheron
@sofialemon
Perhaps in previous threads, I've not read the full 5. In the ones I've been on discussion was around the fact they posted school photos with uniform and book bags, shared nursery drop offs etc. I did off the back of this google the name of one of the children and was appalled and what info was out there, Instagram is not the only place these insta famous people share info.
An instadad once put up his address and location by showing some bin issue in the front of their house.
This feels very much like rather than sensible discussion, Cady and Sofia constantly trying to prove they are right and everyone else is a bunch of stalker nutters. Off the back of that conversation above I googled my children's names and related to one discovered something I was unaware of so have taken action. Guess I'm now a stalker of my own children... the point is many accounts are popular without putting that out there.
The links to houses etc was at the time they were being sold and this was shared online. I personally think you 2 have issues if you don't realise the majority of this comes from the original posters themselves.

CadyHeron · 04/04/2018 16:15

Pointing out security holes is NOT stalking.

That's exactly what the IGer upthread did too though on her stories to the one on her feed being nasty by the look of it.
Do you agree it'd feel threatening? If it was about you? I'm assuming so by people saying it was going too far.
You're right, it is. Whoever you are doing it.

CadyHeron · 04/04/2018 16:16

mumofkids nobody should be putting identifying information about themselves such as school wise out there. I'll agree with you on that one.
It's common sense and keeping yourself safe.

Sofialemon · 04/04/2018 16:17

@miamimice

Yes that is what I am referring to, I should have made clear it was over on the bloggers thread not this one. There have been other personal "facts" stated about other bloggers on carious Mumsnet threads which imo are unnecessary.

I don't disagree that the Merc post is an ad, my point is that DLAM has made it very, very clear that the car has been loaned, thanked Mercedes and I thought that when the content of the post itself makes it very clear there was no need for #ad?

kirinm · 04/04/2018 16:19

@Sofialemon I'm a lawyer. The way I'm which I work, write and speak to clients make it clear I'm a lawyer. I still have to comply with the code of conduct and solicitor regulations. Because they're regulations. Not advice.

Sofialemon · 04/04/2018 16:20

I've attached some pics from another insta account. I don't recall seeing #ad in any of his other stories or posts featuring the car but he is clearly promoting Prolease, Mercedes and a vehicle wrapping company.

For those who don't enjoy trashy tv it's Sam from MiC.

kirinm · 04/04/2018 16:22

Monumental difference there is, of course, that by reference to a 'deal' it sounds as if he paid for it. You can brag about whatever you like if you've paid for it. It's different when you're being paid (be that in the shape of being loaned the car or hard cold cash) to brag about it. It's really not hard.

coladog · 04/04/2018 16:25

I very much doubt he paid for it

coladog · 04/04/2018 16:27

The made in Chelsea lot are terrible for declaring freebees.

Sofialemon · 04/04/2018 16:29

@kirinm

Actually from following Sam and seeing his stories etc re the car I was under the impression he hadn't paid for it, or certainly not full price and that the "deal" done with Prolease was either a reduced rate or free.

My point was he hasn't used #ad either.

Some of you need to actually read the ASA guidelines as I honestly don't think you understand them.

PavlovaPrincess · 04/04/2018 16:31

I think that should probably be an #ad actually.

I've no idea who he is though and I don't follow him so I don't know if this is something he does regularly or not.

ABuckToothedGirlinLuxembourg · 04/04/2018 16:33

It does feel like some posters are either friends of the instamums discussed here, or are in fact the instamums themselves. This constant back and forth nitpicking at every single thing has made the thread difficult to follow, and I guess that was the intention.

kirinm · 04/04/2018 16:34

I don't know who he is and how can you go from saying it shouldn't be an AD for one person but should for another. If he's not paid for it then of course it should be an AD. Same for DLAM. Not everyone will understand that being loaned a car and giving it a positive review should be interpreted as an AD. It's not hard to put AD is it? Why don't they? Because they know people don't really like ads.

PavlovaPrincess · 04/04/2018 16:34

@Sofialemon I'm not sure what your point is? Are you saying that because he hasn't used AD, nobody else needs too?

Sofialemon · 04/04/2018 16:34

I've attached the ASA guidelines, not as straightforward as many of you on here seem to think and I'd imagine very easy to work around so as no need to have to #ad if they don't want to.

Mumofkids · 04/04/2018 16:40

As a 'viewer' before I unfollowed this morning. I had no idea what was going on with DLSM's Mercedes. She kept tagging them. It's only after her break she's said they lent her the car. So yes in the aftermath she's mentioned it, but before when it was being discussed I had no idea.
But the account is so confusing and the price of what she puts up out of reach so I've gone now.

CadyHeron · 04/04/2018 16:41

It's interesting to see that you perceive people asking questions to be nit picking instead of just having a differing opinion or challenging viewpoints.
And no, just because I see things differently more rationally and with a grasp on reality (well others seem to like the strike out option) it doesn't mean I'm one of them or one of their mates either.
Because I'm not. I don't know them.

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