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[Supernorthernme]

The thread continues....if it hasn't continued elsewhere! @Lateforall it was me who questioned Lobella loves depression wears lippy campaign. I get that the idea is that being a bit glam might be a way of coping. And i have been guilty of putting my face on to carry on in the world. I get that not everyone with pnd is sat at home in pjs unshowered with greasy hair. But I just find the whole thing so false on her account - maybe that is because I know of her in real life.

But I think so many of them have massivley over exaggerated aspects of their lives because it sells. Whether that is FODs clumsy parenting or whatever. But it really doesnt sit well

Areyouinthegame A model Recommends once recommended La Roche Posay Effaclar Duo and ever since I started using it years ago, I stopped getting spots - so that was nice. Maybe that's why I still follow her, heh.

I recently stumbled across guru gossip when trying to find out if Estee and Aslan had split up, I feel a right saddo even writing that hahaha. It’s brutal there!

I saw CH’s stories and to bring the other women’s religion into it was pretty low. Grown women ‘calling out’ another person for criticising. Pretty shameful. Then saying if she gets abuse then it’s her fault? Erm okay. Not you who broadcast the petty convo to your followers so you can get messages like ‘you ok Hun?’. *smallest violin’ I also saw Feathering the empty nest story, I follow her as I find her very funny. She is obviously reading the forum, hence her #aggresivelynormal? Not sure what people wrote about her but all the comments I have seen were praises?

I think, in the heat of the moment, MP also storied a sharp comment someone DM'd her along with username but later took it down.

It's a bit reminiscent of the spat that MOD and Danielle Parry had last year.

@miamimice Yes, influencers basically get gifted everything and are paid a lot to mention brands, so isn't it just safe to assume that's always the case. They're walking billboards. If it's annoying, then unfollow. Why is this a topic?

There are always honest reviews that we can check out online if we really want to know if a product works.

CH disabled her comments too. Poor form from CH .

@ABuckToothedGirlinLuxembourg Guru Gossip is like descending into a very dark place... There's so much bile and spite. Best to avoid that place. This thread is a bit of a tame version of what you would find there.

@HolyMountain, way way back in 2015/2016 when all this shadiness in blogs (pre Insta!) with brands kicked off, there were a couple of threads where CH had a starring role in being less than pristine.

Here’s one
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/style_and_beauty/2547239--Title-edited-by-MNHQ-Insider-dirt-on-beauty-and-fashion-blogging

During this there was a major CH-supporting flounce on Sali Hughes’ Instagram. CH denied any wrongdoing, called Mumsnetters (surely the very picture of a target demographic for her?), a pack of bitches in a number of different places, and then proceeded to change her disclaimers/companies she worked with anyway to support what people here were asking for in terms of transparency. Funny, since then I don’t think she’s been back to host a skincare web chat on MN...

So this was Jan 2016. Much like this thread, these same issues of transparency keep going round in a circle. I think people will still get away with shoddy behaviour until either ASA or indeed HMRC actually does something about it. But how likely is that?

@PavlovaPrincess I can’t remember doing that but could be wrong - it’s been known to happen. What I do remember is highlighting something someone said (“put your skanky manky titty away” [while I was breastfeeding]) and clarifying that it is neither skanky, nor manky; I can clean my tit.

Interesting ad question- if someone does a square which is an ad about visiting somewhere (paid to visit by a shoe company to test the shoes so shoes are in the shot), but does loads of stories about the same visit with no ad on there, but also not featuring the shoes, does that fall foul?

Ironically you can see shoes in one of the stories and they're not even wearing the ones they've been paid to advertise. Someone has picked up on this too but it has been addressed quite honestly.

This person is usually good at tagging things and I like their account. They are one where the children are featured heavily and the children's hobbies etc so very easy to find them if you wanted to.

Just curious how this would fit in when we're talking ad tags etc as it's an unusual one.

@Badmotherpukka nothing to do with skanky, manky titties.

It was something to do with a flexible working demonstration you'd been on and you'd been DM'd. And while I have no problem with anyone showing any comments you've received, I don't think it's on to show names and single anyone out.

Apologies if I got it wrong though, but it stuck in my mind

I DM'd the instamum who featured a bag from a charity (Arthouse Meath) in a post whilst on holiday in Cornwall. There was debate on here whether that post should have had #ad.

She replied giving me a bit of info about the company and said they sent her the bag about 6 months ago (with no obligation to post about it) and that as she was using it that day she tagged it. She also said she never breaks the ASA guidelines and never reads mumsnet.

I was quite surprised she replied.

Wow, she's really gone up in my estimation.

A charity sent her a bag six months ago, and she very kindly (six months later) tagged the charity in a picture while she was using the bag.

As for her not reading MN, she probably stopped after someone on another thread said the Friday Lunge was cheesy and outdated (or words to that effect) which, coincidentally, was around the time she stopped doing the Friday Lunge.

Someone also said made a comment about her bio, which she also changed around the same time. As I said though, probably just a coincidence 🤷🏻‍♀️

@pavolaprincess who is the instamum?

@Babaloo88 Dresslikeamum

@Sofialemon I apologise if that sounded like a dig at you by the way, but she's hardly going to say she's breaking the ASA guidelines is she?

@pavlovaprincess there are an awful lot of coincidences.
Can you edit posts on Instagram or do you have to repost?
Mrs Meldrum has storied the CH post. I'd never heard of CH before. I guess if you take on a grammer, you may get called out. It's a risk. But Denise, in my opinion, may have had a point.

@badmotherpukka I only remember you posting some dms with some guys who wanted you (and your mum?! Or did I mentally add that bit) to visit!
Skanky Manly titties was harsh, I think your feeds done wonders for mums and baby feeding (whatever the delivery 🍈 or 🍼)

@PavlovaPrincess

Tbh whatever the "instamums" do or don't don't you will find fault with. A few of you complained on here that the bag post should have been #ad, clearly you were wrong.

Now you're saying she should have featured the bag in a post sooner. I'm sure many items bloggers are sent (charity or not) are never featured at all.

@Mumofkids IG now has an edit function so you can edit your posts anytime you want and no one will know (it used to come up that it had been edited, but now it doesn't).

It's only possible to edit the caption though, not any subsequent comments.

@Sofialemon I honestly don't mean this as harsh as it might sound, but she got a free bag from a charity, didn't feature it for six months and couldn't even be arsed to talk about the charity in her post when she got to featuring it.

But yeah, it says more about me probably for thinking like that, but I'm naturally quite cynical.

So a user could if they wanted go back and ad #'s and avoid any trouble with ASA and stories would just disappear? Sounds quite straightforward really.

Yes the debate was actually about whether it would have been nice to give the charity a bit of publicity rather than just plonking tye bag in the background. What with it being a charity and all.

More or less @Mumofkids unless someone has screenshots.

A lot of the instamums started using #ad around the time the very first thread appeared which was Autumn 2017, I think.

But yes, it's possible to go way back I guess and add hashtags to old posts.

Agree with the charity thing, 6 months later is not that charitable.

But seeing as she’s responding to your messages maybe can you ask her why her morroco holiday wasn’t disclosed as an ad and why her sponsored topshop posts aren’t disclosed as ads on instagram either?