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[Supernorthernme]

The thread continues....if it hasn't continued elsewhere! @Lateforall it was me who questioned Lobella loves depression wears lippy campaign. I get that the idea is that being a bit glam might be a way of coping. And i have been guilty of putting my face on to carry on in the world. I get that not everyone with pnd is sat at home in pjs unshowered with greasy hair. But I just find the whole thing so false on her account - maybe that is because I know of her in real life.

But I think so many of them have massivley over exaggerated aspects of their lives because it sells. Whether that is FODs clumsy parenting or whatever. But it really doesnt sit well

Cady If MoD was to roll out her usual 'can you give us your recommendations' spiel for a luxurious extended family holiday it would not only demonstrate a huge lack of integrity but also sheer unadulterated greed.

@HolyMountain agreed.

I don't understand why they don't go directly to holiday companies and just ask them if they're willing to give them a holiday in exchange for exposure.

The 'can anyone recommend...' thing pisses me off because a lot of followers aren't wise to it, so go to the effort of leaving a comment thinking that the blogger is actually interested in their opinion when they really couldn't give a shit that 'Leximummytoone' thinks that 'Beko washing machines are brilliant!'. When all they're really doing is hoping that a brand will see it.

It's blagging in its worst form. At least Elle Darby was upfront with the Dublin Hotel owner when she was doing the same thing.

If someone was wanting to go on holiday and wanted some recommendations, where's nice? etc. Nothing wrong with asking for opinions.

Nothing wrong with asking for opinions of course not, we could all ask for opinions here and I have done myself here in the past, an honest request for opinions and not expecting anything else.

A hugely popular IGer does it knowing there's a damn good chance a luxurious freebie will wing its way to her, with conditions of a good write up and snaps, as you are fully aware of.

Take style me Sunday for example..... I need clothes for holiday....... Oh look cocobay are there to help.

Her mate mod always wears cocobay freebies on holiday. So I'm sure she's familiar with the brand to buy her own. But no its better to phish for freebies.

Oh, but stylemesunday was just asking how she could help promote them. By letting them send some stuff for nowt. It was almost charity work if you look at it like that.

I mean, she couldn't possibly go and buy some stuff from small brands and also show pics of what's she bought, therefore helping them twice

Yep,fully aware of. There's nothing being done wrong though. If it's a fashion blog, say as someone has just mentioned. Saying they need new clothes is matter of fact, talking to their followers.
If a brand wants to get in front of the audience by sending something, advertising their clothes, and the IGer accepts, nobody is doing anything wrong.
It'd be a form of advertising. If it's stated as such, neither party is in the wrong.
Just because you'd happily send the clothes back and say no thank you I don't want them, others might genuinely want/need them and want to feature them by either writing them up or showcasing on Instagram.

MODs Miele washing machine stuff was a disgrace

So I'm sure she's familiar with the brand to buy her own. But no its better to phish for freebies.

This is what it boils down to, isn't it? I think you're rich enough, you don't need to phish for freebies.
Nobody knows anyone's finances really though, do they? Social media shows a glossy side of life.
Away from the camera it might be a different story.
People looking through the pictures, thinking they know them, obsessing over every little detail, don't really know them at all.They just think they do.

Oh and remember she tried to blag a mulberry bag. And then complained they didn't get the message... just skanky behaviour. When she could easily afford to buy a couple. But she deems it unworthy of her hard earned cash. It doesn't make the brand look very good does it.

Oh and remember she tried to blag a mulberry bag

Oh yeah , The Clemmie, a snip at £600+ and she sounded miffed that they hadn't seen her beg and plead say how much she'd love one, now had it been Hill and Friends .

@Areyouinthegame forgot about the Mulberry bag thing.

@Halfpastfreckle how many posts did she do talking about not being able to get her washing done? And a 'can anyone recommend a washing machine?'

Jesus Christ, just fecking buy yourself a bloody washing machine. I only have two kids and there's no way I'd have been able to hold out for that length of time on the off chance someone would give me a free one.

So @cadyheron how did you feel watching MOD blag these items over the last 2 years? Were you aware that's what she was doing? Did you just get it? I didn't and was really disappointed to find it was all about the freebie on the pretence of getting advice. The bag (that didn't work) it's not obsessing, it's following someone, all these things happening by and then realising you've been taken for a ride. Were you not a bit surprised at the brazenness. (And I know the response will be, nothing wrong with it, but how did that make you feel over that time period?)

@pavlova @holy @areyouin

Totally agree with your comments. It's not obsessing that we all remember those things, it's clearly how blatant it was for us all to remember. I guess if you didn't follow you might not understand why people would feel annoyed at it. Such greed.

Nothing wrong with it though.

If you don't like what they are posting, there are lots out there who don't accept gifts and showcase them who may be better suited to your tastes.
Doesn't make sense to obsessively watch the ones you don't like.

That wasn't to mumofkids though, it was the one before you.

@cadyheron I do understand where you are coming from, but not quite sure if you realise how sneaky it all was and how it came across at the time. The recent #ad is very new and I remember people saying a while later about when she got the freebies, and I just couldn't believe someone could be so blatent. So I assumed she'd bought them. I 'know' it doesn't mean anything or matter in the grand scheme of things but you follow and you follow because you like the account and it just was weird. I don't think FOD does it.

@CadyHeron - I'm not sure there is nothing wrong with it though. If you are consciously building a world of must have bigger and better and that is what your followers are subconsciously buying into then I think you may be responsible for a lot of unhappiness, low self esteem (I am not good enough for this... or....... I want but probably don't need this that and the other). Because it comes laced with the personal touch, so not like traditional marketing, it has a more real appeal to it. The grammers are my friend - what they have, I must have.......

Cady you seem to get all moralistic when it comes to what you perceive as rudeness and insults. Yet greed and deception don't bother you because no "rules" are broken and its all "fairgame"

MOD initially followed the Kate moss school of never explain ever complain until in the end she had to begrudgingly start (sort of) ackowledging the (relentless) ads. @cady I think you’ve said before you don’t actually follow her so maybe you can’t really comment on how she basically took the piss out of her followers. She traded her followers for money and has sold her life and family in the process. She is a business and open therefore to all legitimate criticism and for those of us who have followed for her a long time there is a rich seam of shadiness to draw from. The 2 year olds selling razor blades I’ve already highlighted as a particular low for me.
DLAM currently firmly in the mossy school/burying her head in the sand.
There are others who do this job properly and it is of course a job and a legitimate one at that (why not in this day and age). Erica davies is a beacon of transparency, so is DMBL40 and of course the saintly pukka.
And the “it’s all new to me” bullshit is of course bullshit.

@CadyHeron - I explained why I look at but not follow them yesterday. I think, as a mother of teenagers, it is important to see how this whole new social media world is unfolding. If I am troubled by it, how much, much worse is it for our young adults.

Totally agree with your comments. It's not obsessing that we all remember those things, it's clearly how blatant it was for us all to remember.

Blatant or not, there's nothing wrong with accepting gifts and putting them on your platform. If you say they are gifts of course.
The beauty of the internet is that there's lots out there to find one more to your taste.

@halfpastfreckle I wish I could 'like' your comment!

There has just been an interesting programme on R4 about the rise of leaders and followers which looked, in part, at the role of social media. Fascinating to see the rise of the micro influencer (people who reflect "my" world) in an age when we are rejecting more traditionalist, conformist leadership roles; politicians, business leaders, etc........