To think that’s it’s cheeky as fuck to expect other people to fund your skin removal surgery?

[Lactofreechummy]

My friend had gastric bypass surgery last year after really struggling with her weight since childhood.

She has done amazingly well and lost over 11 stones.

Yesterday, I had a notification pop up on facebook.

My friend has set up a page where people can donate money to help fund her skin removal surgery. The target is set at £6,500.

As someone who has also lost a considerable amount of weight (5.5 stones) and also has some extra skin etc, I find it ludicrous to even think of asking for other’s to fund it. I have told my friend this and she said that she couldn’t think of any other way to raise funds quickly enough.

What happened to all the money she saved on chocolate

I hope you’re proud of your witty little comment

You and others making such nasty comments really are the lowest of low. Maybe one day you’ll be on the other side and look back in shame on your nasty, nasty comments.

I'd donate.
Anyone who buys into the 'eat less move more ' doctrine is a utter fucking idiot. It ignores 90% of the bio/psycho/social reasons behind obesity.
Well done her. She's rationally gone for the only thing (gastric bypass) proven to be of benefit. Of course she should do whatever she can to get her skin removed if she wants to.

Up for that are we?

I actually would be shatners wig - I live in Sweden and pay about 45% tax with 60% on any bonuses. I’m not a very high earner but in the uk on my salary I’d take Home about 20% more.
I’d rather have the potholes fixed and a functioning, more equal society than that extra 20%

Recognise I may be in a minority there though.

As to the op - if the skin is causing her significant morbidity (infections etc) she would be a candidate for surgery. If it’s putely cosmetic then she will have to self fund. You’re under no obligation to give.

Just don't give her the money and if your loose skin bothers you then set up your own crowd funding page.

It's not as though she blew all her cash on designer handbags and now wants people to fund her round the world year off is it?

Calm down miss annie

Some horrible responses on this thread.

I've lost 15 stone and went to my GP to see if the NHS would fund my skin removal surgery, despite the GP and the surgeon saying that I was the worst case they have seen my funding was denied.

People have no idea how demoralising it is to live with and before I get the 'you shouldn't have got that big in the first place brigade' I was raped when I was a teenager and abused throughout my childhood, food was my only comfort.

Don't judge, if she wants to do crowdfunding I applaud her courage to do it.

I would help a friend in this situation.

Sally ..........yes you are the poster i was talking about...........i didnt feel it right to mention your username.

So NHS wont do your op to remove your excess skin unless you lose the weight that IS your excess skin. Thats Kafkesque.

MrsLupo Tue 27-Mar-18 17:44:21

"If she had lost weight properly whilst exercising and eating right she wouldn't have a load of loose skin."

BULLSHIT i did mine on Slimming World.

"We do have a fat shaming mentality in this country, it’s nasty and ignorant"

Oh God yes. By the magazine stands today screamed headlines LIAR GET HER OFF OUR SCREENS NOW about Scarlett Moffat to do with something about her fitness DVD

Beside other headlines and articles wishing Ant well

Anyone would think Scarlett crashed into the car with a 3 year old in it while under the influence of a Krispy Kreme,

I don't even think the NHS should fund it.
The NHS are struggling and they have more important things to spend money on and fund than bloody excess skin removal.
She should raise them herself or if she's got a decent job, get a loan for it

If she had controlled herself and not gotten so big, then she wouldn't have the excess skin.

I'm all for "love how you want and have the body you want" as long as it doesn't negatively impact others. Getting so big that you start being a drain on the NHS is not ok. She already got a gastric band costing the taxpayer thousands, she absolutely should not get skin removal on the NHS.

You get yourself into that state then you can get yourself out of it. If her friends want to pay for her then that's their choice. She's not really cheeky; just probably desperate.

And before anyone starts on about "body shaming", it's not about how she looks, it's about costing other people money because she kept eating. I feel the same about alcoholics, drink drivers/drunk idiots who end up in A&E, diabetics who did it to themselves etc. If you know 100% that what you're doing to yourself is making you ill and then you go crying to the NHS... Well, you did it to yourself.

Angel

And if Ant had controlled himself a 3 year old wouldnt have had to go to hospital....................an NHS one im assuming.

Anatidae I am also up for a more scandavaian approach to tax and funding of public services.

So in my higher tax paying utopia the NHS would pay for this.

@HelenaDove

I can't tell if you're being intentionally obtuse or just didn't read fully.
I said "I feel the same about drink drivers" - Ant should have been made to pay the medical costs.

sporty its not the same as loose skin left by pregnancy.............dont be so ignorant.

People in general have lost all sense of personal responsibility. It's always someone else's fault and someone else's responsibility to deal with,

Some people have genuine medical reasons for exessive weight gain and I feel for them, but mostly it's people who simply eat too much or don't move enough, or both. It's not an insurmountable problem - it's eating too much. When you notice you're getting a bit overweight or a bit wobbly, then stop eating or go for an hours walk everyday - just do something. Don't keep eating until you need surgery.

Ah i see Ava But a lot of people dont seem to think so

And this is why i would think twice before taking any medication that may cause weight gain.

Ive been through too much to go there again and risk coming across these attitudes.

If she had lost weight properly whilst exercising and eating right she wouldn't have a load of loose skin.

Bollocks. I know of someone who did lose weight 'properly' and has this problem. She worked hard to lose weight that she put on after being raped, but the excess skin has left her prone to skin infections and the effect on her mental health has put her back on anti-depressants. She's kept the weight off for over five years now and I think the NHS should remove the excess skin.

Sally
The NHS definitely should fund loose skin removal where this skin is causing prolonged ill-health

It would be far more sensible for the NHS to specify that weight must remain stable for say 2 years, rather than a BMI that can be so distorted by a huge weight of loose skin.

I think when you’ve had weight loss surgery,paid for by the nhs, then no, it’s something she should pay for, however if someone has actually worked their butt off to lose a significant amount of weight, with hard work, diet and exercise then I think they should have a chance of having it funded as the nhs haven’t funded their actual weight loss as their do with gastric ops.

I feel the same about alcoholics, drink drivers/drunk idiots who end up in A&E, diabetics who did it to themselves etc. If you know 100% that what you're doing to yourself is making you ill and then you go crying to the NHS... Well, you did it to yourself.

What about anorexics? They should stop so being silly and just eat properly.

People who self harm? Attention seeking idiots should just pull themselves together.

Attempted suicide? Just leave them to it.

That's an amazing amount of weight to lose. I'd donate to a friend, yes.

And to @SallyVate - what a brilliant achievement. And just a thought - have you contacted your MP about the Catch 22 you're now in?

I can think of about 17 medications off the top of my head that cause weight gain, but for almost there are strategies to help prevent it. Obvisouly, there hundreds of drugs which can be a cause, but I don't know them, so can't say either way.

And, if you're a healthy weight before starting the course, you won't end up in a state were you require surgery unless you simply don't take any steps to help yourself. There's a difference between getting bigger and getting so big you need surgery.