To think that’s it’s cheeky as fuck to expect other people to fund your skin removal surgery?

[Lactofreechummy]

My friend had gastric bypass surgery last year after really struggling with her weight since childhood.

She has done amazingly well and lost over 11 stones.

Yesterday, I had a notification pop up on facebook.

My friend has set up a page where people can donate money to help fund her skin removal surgery. The target is set at £6,500.

As someone who has also lost a considerable amount of weight (5.5 stones) and also has some extra skin etc, I find it ludicrous to even think of asking for other’s to fund it. I have told my friend this and she said that she couldn’t think of any other way to raise funds quickly enough.

Stick and pigs that's what I said, but apparently other posters are adamant they've found her.

Sophie. There’s nowhere near enough info to ‘out’ someone fundraising for this, there are many, many people doing it.

Let the thread stand. It’s better knowing what people actually think. It saves the bother of being compassionate when they have a problem, which for the rest of us is easy fixed...

Well the OP can PM Sophie the persons name, and anyone who thinks they’ve found her can PM Sophie the name - I’ll put money on them not matching

I don’t think there are enough details to put be person. Maybe only to themselves. I even googled and I’ve no idea how anyone could say they have the exact person. There are a few I did find a recent one but how can a I ever know hats them?

I suspect its more that the smug orgy is over and some posters are regretting some of the nasty self-satisfied comments they made. Doesnt fit with a public image of a place of tolerance and respect really, does it?

It's not nasty to tell the truth.
You eat too much, you get big. Finally decide to control yourself, then expect someone else to pay the bill. That's not acceptable when so many with serious conditions they've done nothing to cause cannot get proper treatment.

Avasarala
Read my pp. I feel the same about (and not limited to) drunk drivers, people who gave themselves diabetes, smokers, alcoholics wanting new livers, drunks who end up at A&E. They should pay for their treatment.

Using your logic, I take it you would be happy to pay for any NHS services related to birth control, pregnancy, childbirth etc?

Some things are unavoidable or not clear cut but it is very clear and universally understood that if you eat to excess and don't exercise, then you get big. Can't go around saying you didn't know or didn't understand

Not an insight into human behaviour or psychology or the complexity of the issue.

Without children, there would be no younger generations to fund the pensions of those who retire during the younger's working life.

Without children, a society suffers. With too many unwanted children, or children born into circumstances where they can't be supported then a society will suffer. So both birth control and childbirth help society. Obesity does not. Don't try to compare them

Well, yes, children are a 'lifestyle choice', are they not?

There have been some right thick bastards on this thread.

I don't deny that there are many complex issues causing people to overeat. But if you're an overrated, then you know you are. You get bigger and bigger and you know it.
Seek help before you end up in the position where you need gastric bypass surgery or in the position of needing skin removed once you lose the weight.

Get help before you get into that state. Save your heart some trouble, and save the rest or society money.

@LineysInTheSand

Without the "lifestyle choice" of children, then there is no future. No one paying taxes when everyone retires. No one to fill the workforce when everyone retires.

Without obesity.... I can't think of a downside. We're all better off.

You can't compare them.

I hope this very illuminating thread can stay, too.

Ah name

What’s a sweet post ! NOT

I won’t even ask if you read the thread

'I know she had the skin removed and she looks great,'

It doesn't, it still looks stretched and the scars are terrible, but it helps with movement and exercise and skin splitting/infections.

So when you get to 180 to 200 pounds you seek help. Well I did just that and was told I didn't qualify for help.
So I lost weight the k it way I could at the time taking food out of the equation. I lost 3 stone but guess what a year later I had regained it.
Now thankfully losing weight sensibly using my fitness pal but it is bloody hard.
sally definitely deserved the op. The rules are ridiculous.

You don't have to get help from your GP. There are fitness trackers (that's what I use to monitor myself), weight loss groups (some better than others), private counselling, walking group's, any clubs you can join if you eat out if boredom. There's lots of choices; some more costly than others but there's no reason to say "the go won't help, so I will get massive and then they'll have too"

You lost it without doctor involvement. Plenty of people do everyday, without getting to the point where they need skin removal surgery.

Condemning someone to a life of skin infections seems cruel to me; and it also takes them out of the labour force and other productive activities, and leaves them requiring other medical treatments anyway.

I'd like to hope Sally gets the procedure she needs.

Because someone might recognize the person in the OP? What utter bollocks If that was the case this thread would have been pulled by Weds morning.

I have also tried googling All i can find are crowd funders from last year or the year before.

If people don't want to give they won't give. If they do want to give it isn't for you to judge, presumably they are adults and entitled to make their own decisions.

the real reason for wanting to pull this thread is because we have a few Mean Girls shitting themselves because they know nothing you ever say on the internet is really private. Its also bad PR but if the thread is deleted people will pretend it never happened. It would be another form of bullying of those of us who have been affected by this thread.

Ava..............private counselling.

a. i thought you said people were just gluttons.

b. as you are so concerned i assume that you put your money where your mouth is and donate healthy options to food banks

Those on Universal Credit or JSA cant always afford to eat healthily and they certainly cant afford private counselling.

this is a post of YOURS posted yesterday on page 9 Ava .

Avasarala Wed 28-Mar-18 12:21:31

"I mean, it was a sign of wealth during certain points in history but isn't the bench mark for what people were always like. People knew of the health risks, and most did not eat to excess. Now, it's cheap to eat crap and we just don't think about it"

Its CHEAP Your words I look forward to your next contradiction.

I've said over and over that there are a minority with binge eating disorder or who have been through abuse or something else underlying - for them, counselling would help and I've known people who got it on the NHS but I'd guess it depends on the area. Or you can pay for it. It's a choice, but if you can't afford it and still keep eating, it doesn't cost anything to exercise.

Also, my point was It's cheap AND people don't think about it. Whether you're rich or poor, you don't think about buying processed food as it's so widely available. Not "it's cheap so poor people get fat" - the point was people don't think about what they put in their body because there's no big financial hit. So they eat anything and everything. Rich or poor.

You can keep banging the drum that being fat isn't that person's fault, but it is and it affects the rest of the economy and health service. If it didn't affect anyone else then I wouldn't care, but it does. I also hate that my kids will grow up in a world were saying "being obese is bad" will be screamed at as "body shaming". What nonsense.

I just did a wee Google there just to see and turns out there's a whole load of free resources and online tutorial style things that people can access for support and to help develop strategies when they feel the compulsion to snack etc. Not as good as a dedicated therapist, but if you're serious about weight loss, loads of help to develop strategies. It's an option if there's no other help.