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Were they rude or was I expecting too much?

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KnowYourOnions · 25/03/2018 16:08

Friends visited this weekend. They were here Friday to Sunday and obviously we provided all meals etc, including a take away (which they knew about in advance). They didn’t offer to contribute towards the take away, didn’t offer help with any of the cooking/tidying up after meals and they didn’t bring anything at all as a thank you.

Obviously I won’t say anything but am I being totally unreasonable to feel a bit miffed? I would always take something if I were staying with someone and pitch in with stuff that needed doing.

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WinstonlovesJulia1984 · 25/03/2018 21:31

When DD2 had her 21st birthday she wanted a party at home so we did a 3-course dinner for 16 of her friends - as you can imagine this was quite a lot of work and most of them said thank you as they left but only a few sent thank-you cards afterwards. I noticed this but just thought it showed that young people are no longer taught these social niceties whereas my mother thought they were all very rude!

TotHappy · 25/03/2018 22:08

Yeah, i was never taught the thank you card thing, don't know how old your dd is - I'm thirty. I didn't even know it was a thing!

DiegoMadonna · 25/03/2018 22:45

I'm early 30s and only send thank you cards to my old relatives who I know expect them. Would never send them (or any kind of card, really) to anyone my age. Just like I wouldn't send them a letter.

Cards are old tech. I would bring a gift at the start, pay for the takeaway, offer to help cook while there, and say thank you afterwards via whatsapp. That's all pretty standard stuff.

Bluntness100 · 25/03/2018 23:29

The question is why did they change this time and were so rude and ill mannered.i think this is something I will ponder

Yes, I did, and still do if something like this thread reminds me. I don't believe any adults are unaware it's good manners to bring a gift for the host, or a bottle of wine to contribute, to help tidy up or offer to at least pay for their share of a take away. I also don't believe people just forget to do so. I have to be honest and say no matter how much I've pondered it, I don't understand it. It's rude, end of.

Even my daughter, when she was going to stay with friends , from about 18 on, would take a gift for the parents. Her idea. Her friends come to stay with us and I always get a box of chocolates or a bottle of something to say thanks for having them. As kids they don't need to do that but they always do.

As for thank you cards, I don't do that, but I always send a text on the drive home, as well as thanking in person before I leave, and the text always starts with thank You again for a brilliant weekend/evening/whatever, then whatever message I want to say.

I Simply cannot imagine turning up at someone's house empty handed then eating my fill of their food, drinking their booze for as long as I wished, then saying thanks mate and leaving. I'd feel ashamed.

The friends who did it to Us, my husband went to stay with them on a trip and he took gifts, even though it was done to us, we would not do it back and go empty handed simply because they did. The gifts were happily recieved. Which adds to the pondering,,,

Earnwoodw · 25/03/2018 23:54

Going against the grain - who invited who? I have a friend who now lives in Spain and previously lived in Paris and London. She invited me over to see where she lived/lives and I always felt obliged to go, and obviously I always wanted to see her too. All times I've spent a couple hundred pound on flights or trains, plus holidays from work. I've never offered a gift any more than I'd expect one when she comes home and comes for a drink at mine. If you invite someone to stay and it costs them to go, I dont think you should expect any further contribution.

KnowYourOnions · 26/03/2018 07:56

earn having to pay for flights to a foreign country is in no way the same as jumping in a car and heading up the M1. Saying that, when I’ve been to visit friends abroad, I’ve still always taken a small present. American friends particularly appreciated British chocolate.

They were the ones who first asked about coming to visit so there was no obligation for them to come. Nobody took any time off work.

I really wasn’t wanting them to spend loads on me, more an acknowledgement that it is a cost to host someone (money, time and energy). As I said upthread, a £1 bunch of daffodils or a cup of coffee bought when we were out together would have totally changed my view on the situation.

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flowergrrl77 · 26/03/2018 17:43

See, if friends have drive. To ME, I expect to be sorting all the things anyways, unless I’ve asked for specific (allergy items for some etc) as I’d not managed to get them myself...

SandAndSea · 26/03/2018 17:46

YANBU. They are rude.

Jesi98 · 26/03/2018 17:55

I had the same thing happen to me, YANBU. My ‘friends’ invited themselves, we live in cornwall so often have visitors, they told me they had no money etc (which is fine we do lots of free things) but for the four/five days they were here bought and drank 3 bottles of vodka, about 20 beers and cigarettes, but didn’t contribute at all to breakfast lunch or dinners for 4 of them! A pint of milk as a gesture might have been nice! Some people just take the p*ss!

Thirtyrock39 · 26/03/2018 17:59

How far Did they travel ? I recently stayed with a friend and had to fly with only hand luggage so couldn't take anything with me food or drink wise to contribute and they collected me from airport and didn't live near a shop . I did offer to chip in for takeaway but they wouldn't let me do felt a bit of a CF but really didn't get an opportunity to contribute (did buy a load of ice creams and took airport gifts)

TempusEejit · 26/03/2018 18:03

YANBU but no on can take advantage of you like that without your consent.

Charolais · 26/03/2018 18:28

When we stay with people we take them out for dinner, at a nice place, and pay for it.

Sparkle5 · 26/03/2018 18:33

My MIL and SIL come and stay every summer for a week. They get waited on hand and foot and offer no help whatsoever.They fuss like crazy as the bedding has to be a certain thread count and mattresses have to conform to their demands. It’s not me that’s panders to them but my husband. I’ve had 25 years of this and have reached the point that when they turn up this year I’m just going to tell them th F—- off!!!! and point them in the direction of an hotel.

Sparklyglitter · 26/03/2018 18:34

That’s happened to us before! So very rude! Needless to say that couple won’t be invited back in a rush!! Grin

Hadalifeonce · 26/03/2018 18:48

We get told which meals we are to provide; and on more than 1 occasion have arrived after being invited to discover there is no food in the house, we then go shopping to buy provisions. I get really angry, but for the sake of DH's family we have to go periodically. Once when I was there with the children, no DH, there wasn't even a drop of milk in the morning for breakfast for the children, so I packed them up and went to my mum's. If they weren't family, I would never ever go there again.

sportyfool · 26/03/2018 18:49

Do you go there ? If so do they pay for everything ? We have friends where this is the case . I would still expect flowers and a big thank you though !

rumblytummy1 · 26/03/2018 18:51

I just couldn’t show up at someone’s house empty handed. Only exception would be if I was literally popping round for a coffee or tea and that is always reciprocal.

If I’m staying with friends overseas, I will take a decent gift, eg perfume, or buy groceries and cook at least one meal and take them out for a meal.

Turquoise123 · 26/03/2018 19:03

That's a shame you must feel pretty used. And I suspect that you will not see them again.

greeneyedlulu · 26/03/2018 19:05

What?? I turn up for a simple lunch with flowers and 1 bottle each of red and white but then my folks brought me up properly Grin

TheDogAndDogAtCrutchley · 26/03/2018 19:10

YANBU. they were very rude.

DameDoom · 26/03/2018 19:16

I could not rock up for a weekend without supplies and a gift for the hosts. I always pull my weight and pay my way - not to do so is the height of bad manners.

blackteasplease · 26/03/2018 19:17

Definitely rude in UK culture (or maybe just English? Not sure.)

Our culture is to bring something and / or pay for the takeaway and defo at least offer and be prepared to help with washing up etc

There may be cultured where you expect to be fed watered and waited on as the guest all weekend with Our bringing a gift and the other lot then reciprocate in the same way, Indont know. But any I've heard of you at least bring a nice gift!

Teacher22 · 26/03/2018 19:22

You bring wine (fizz and red), flowers and chox. I would have thought contributing towards a takeaway would have been pretty standard too.

diddl · 26/03/2018 19:31

I think that they should at least have paid for their coffe/cake & takeaway.

It's one thing to think that meals in the house might just be absorbed in the cost of the weekly shop, but extras?

Even if they are used to Op refusing help, it's surely rude to not offer?

Roversandrhodes · 26/03/2018 19:31

Cheeky shits should have paid for the takeaway for everyone as a Thankyou

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