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People who don't make an effort with their appearance.

335 replies

User247 · 24/03/2018 14:00

What do you think of people who don't do anything to look attractive?

I don't mean washing and basic hygiene. I mean those who don't dress well, wear make up or keep themselves healthy.

Why don't people want to be pleasant to look at?

OP posts:
User247 · 24/03/2018 14:19

When you go for a job interview. Why bother trying to look good Then?

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mummyretired · 24/03/2018 14:21

I'm clean, tidy and healthy; including being fit and my ideal weight. I'm not going to dye my hair or put coloured powder and oil all over my nice clean face just to conform to some weird idea of fashion. I wear what I like bearing in mind what seems appropriate to the occasion.

Making the best of yourself is one thing. Packaging yourself to fit the aspirations of cosmetic and clothing companies is something else entirely and surely indicates low self-esteem / high conformance?

By 'keeping themselves healthy' do you mean not too fat or thin? Do you think this is a choice everyone has, and that they shouldn't be allowed to be exercise it?

LoveInTokyo · 24/03/2018 14:21

For a job interview.

  1. For me. Because I feel more polished and confident.
  1. For my interviewer. Because if they think I don’t take pride in myself, they’re going to think I won’t take pride in my work.
WorldWideWanderer · 24/03/2018 14:23

You do not have to conform at all. Be yourself and happy in that.
My mother never wore make-up and didn't follow fashion one jot....she was always clean, tidy, caring and much loved by her family and husband.
It was a good lesson to my sister and I about what mattered in life.

Now much older, I tend to wear make-up but not always. It's always my choice and done for ME not for what I think other people want to see...I don't live my life based on what others think I ought to be doing or not. I've never been short of friends or supportive family. More importantly I'm always neat and tidy and always clean....

When I meet others I care about finding out who they are, what type of person they are, I don't make judgements solely based on what their general appearance is. Sometimes first impressions don't show the whole person and sometimes I have been wrong in how I have perceived a person....which is why I take my time before I firm up my view of them.

I think psychologically we do pick up subconcious messages about people but when we are younger we tend to rely on these too much. With age and maturity we tend to filter these out better, only taking most note of 'danger' signals which tell us something is not right (red flags etc.)...for the rest experience tells us to look under the surface and base our views on the real person beyond the superfical.

Ski40 · 24/03/2018 14:23

I try to look my best so my husband (still) fancies me, my kids are proud of me and my mum doesn't ring me all alarmed thinking I'm depressed or dying.

The shallow people whose eyes I should be pleasing?? ....mmmmnyeahhNOPE. 😁 Not interested in a fan following thanks just the same... they can always look the other way if my clothes are not trendy enough for them...

PatchworkGirl · 24/03/2018 14:23

I'm not a fan of make up. Sometimes I make a vague effort to look more put-together in what I wear. But I don't give my appearance a lot of thought day-to-day. Being 'pleasant to look at' (whatever that means!) is just not a priority.

Fuffalo · 24/03/2018 14:24

When you go for a job interview. Why bother trying to look good Then?

Presumably because you want the job and are aware that making a good first physical impression goes just as far as having the right CV.

DioneTheDiabolist · 24/03/2018 14:24

I dress and behave in a professional manner when attending interviews because there is a return for my effort (getting the job). Day to day I dress for comfort and convenience.

MiamyMIa · 24/03/2018 14:25

"Why don't people want to be pleasant to look at?"

Because they are probably quite satisfied with their inner life, educated have many interests and see beyond a thin veneer?

hungryhippo90 · 24/03/2018 14:25

I think for most of us, its that the way we look becomes unimportant because we have so much more to grapple with.

I find that I am usually busy from 6am until 11pm of an evening why complicate things by caring about how i look? it would take A LOT to not look like I need a weeks sleep!....

roboticmom · 24/03/2018 14:27

Isn’t vanity one of the seven deadly sins or whatever? I am not religious so don’t really know what I am talking about there. But the idea of wasting time and resources on your looks being a negative thing has been around a long time.. there are lots more important things in life. My subconscious probably goes the other way when I see fancy people than you. I obviously try not to judge though!

zen1 · 24/03/2018 14:27

I don’t wear make-up and always dress in jeans and casual clothes. I don’t consider myself or others who adopt a similar approach “unpleasant to look at”.

Onlyoldontheoutside · 24/03/2018 14:28

I am health but overweight,so Since this is about appearance then you don't really mean healthy.
I don't wear make up as it makes me feel self conscious,so I can't relax so I can't look my best.
It's a weekend off,I can dress as casually as I like.I wear a uniform at work so no worries there.
The one thing I do do though is for interviews I always wear clear nail varnish and make my hands look nice.

Aeroflotgirl · 24/03/2018 14:29

Because people are probably happy or confident in their own skin, and don't need all that Crap to make themselves look or feel good. People might have mental health or health issues, putting make up on and dressing well is the last thing on their mind. They ha to survive through each day, even getting up and dressed is a struggle, let alone the added faff of applying make up. Or they just can't afford nice clothes or make up.

PatchworkGirl · 24/03/2018 14:29

Missed the update! For a job interview I would probably make an effort to get the job by dressing and acting in an appropriate manner (though still no make-up). In the same way I'd take time to put together and proofread a CV. But as I work for myself, from home, this doesn't really come up!

WetPaint4 · 24/03/2018 14:29

Yeah I like to look nice. I'm not very confident naturally and if I feel like I look good, I feel a little more confident. I think women are beautiful anyway but we are judged by everyone so much for how we look and it places many of us under pressure, especially at work. I admire those women who don't give a damn but I'm not confident enough for that.

Thisnamechanger · 24/03/2018 14:30

I looked banging at my job interview...black drainpipe trousers, fitted blazer, stiletto heels and good hair/make-up.

Ive been there four years now and am very rarely out of converse and jeans and never wear make up mwahahaha.

Aeroflotgirl · 24/03/2018 14:31

Going for a job interview is entirely different, you have to sell yiurself, and looking smart and well groomed is part of that.

Idontbelieveinthemoon · 24/03/2018 14:31

Why don't people want to be pleasant to look at?

One person's pleasant is another person's revolting. It's all subjective. There's a woman at the DCs swim club who dresses in the most brilliantly outrageous outfits and clearly has the confidence to wear what the fuck she likes. I'd hope she wouldn't judge me for sometimes turning up in dull running gear so I can have a sneaky run on the treadmill any more than I'd judge her for wearing Louboutins in a leisure centre. Everyone's confidence comes from different places.

Fuffalo · 24/03/2018 14:31

Isn’t vanity one of the seven deadly sins or whatever?

Lots of fun things are.

RoseWhiteTips · 24/03/2018 14:32

Perhaps it’s due to low self esteem. I always wear make up - but not the layered-on type - and dress properly every day at work and in a more casual way when not in a professional setting.

I never wear jogging bottoms or leggings or jeans.

SilverySurfer · 24/03/2018 14:32

Pleasing to whose eye? I can't see myself so really don't give a fuck.

When you go for a job interview. Why bother trying to look good Then?

It's hardly rocket science is it - why do you think? Hmm

windchimesabotage · 24/03/2018 14:32

I usually envy people who can just rock up without having put makeup on. Some people look so lovely even when they dont make any 'effort' in the terms that you describe effort as. I think its obvious when some people just dont care about things like that and those people are often still quite attractive because of how 'themselves' they are iyswim?

The exceptions would probably be people who have made no effort and its apparently because of something negative like they are ill or depressed of have a substance issue. I think that can sometimes be quite obvious though coz it will include lack of hygiene and things like that. I would feel a bit sad for those people.
Or if someone who usually went to a lot of effort suddenly showed up with a lot less thought over their appearance, I would worry that they were sad or stressed.

battenbergbutterfly · 24/03/2018 14:33

There is a lot to be said for the beauty of a woman who is confident with who she is and how she looks whether she wears no make up or a dull face. If she's happy with herself and her appearance that's all that matters. It shows too, a happy confident woman shines through.

Zoflorabore · 24/03/2018 14:34

I have OCD and fibromyalgia amongst other conditions.
I love the feeling of being clean and groomed and wearing nice clothes.

The reality is this though, I'm happiest at home with no bra on, loungewear or pyjamas and no make up or jewellery on.

I'm a bit of an anti social bastard even though I have lots of friends, if anyone comes to my house I don't suddenly whip the Touché Eclat out, pop a bra on and get ready. Why should I?

Too many people worry about what others think. Since I turned 40 this year I've started to speak my mind more and not give a flying fuck what other people think of me.
No pleasing everyone so just make sure you please yourself.

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