People who don't make an effort with their appearance.

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What do you think of people who don't do anything to look attractive?

I don't mean washing and basic hygiene. I mean those who don't dress well, wear make up or keep themselves healthy.

Why don't people want to be pleasant to look at?

Presumably, beyond basic grooming - clean body, clean hair, clean clothes - people adopt a style appropriate to their lifestyle, and the time and money they have available, not to 'look attractive'. I'm going to Sainsbury's later. Why would I need to 'dress well' or wear makeup to do that?

And who says we need to wear makeup in order to 'be pleasant to look at'?

No one should have to conform. If others are shallow, thats their issue. I don't wear make up everyday as my skin flares up with acne so most of the time I'm make up free. Should I put make up on every day and suffer with really sore skin just to keep oher happy?

If people were so accepting of themselves they wouldn't wear makeup and dress well. It's for other people. For the acceptance of others.

Because I've realised that a) most of the time I can't be fucking bothered, and b) I don't give a fuck about the opinions of 99% of the people in the world.

I'm a bit of a grumpy cunt though.

Sometimes I dress nicely and wear makeup and do my hair.

Sometimes I chuck my greasy hair in a ponytail, cover my make up free face with big sunglasses and wear leggings and a vest.

I never wear make up for every day - because I hate the way it feels - couldn't really give a tiny rats wank what other people think of that

Bosswitch Made me laugh

Because my days usually consist of walking the dogs, doing housework, working in the garden, and when I have half an hour to myself, laying on my belly under a camo net or sitting in my hide in my wildlife garden, with my camera. I'm usually to be found in an old sweatshirt or hoodie, a pair of grotty tracksuit bottoms and walking boots or wellies. I don't dress for other people - I dress for me and what I'm doing at the time.

You'd love me OP. I'm lying on the sofa in my nightie, my roots are awful and my legs are hairy. I have a broken tibia and patella and it's too much effort to move around as my leg is in a brace from ankle to thigh. I don't give a fuck what anyone else thinks of me. P.S. I also need a shower which I'll have later.

Kids.

Is the OP a wind up?
I decide how I look. I do not dress to impress nor do I feel I have to meet some shallow concocted standard of beauty and fitness. If I want to slob out I will, and do it happily. Make up and grooming is not essential or mandatory for women and fashion sense is individual. Mind you, if you watch TOWIE etc, there is a uniform and look for the seriously short of brain cells brigade. I wonder why they want to go out looking as they do. You might find that tarty look pleasing to the eye. There's judgemental for you.

Because sometimes I’m jolly chuffed with myself for getting up getting dressed and functioning for the day. HTH

I keep clean for myself and those who come near me; I can't be arsed to wear make up and spent too much time in a uniform to think that it actually makes any difference though I do like to play with it as another mask/persona when I'm going out. I have developed a virtual uniform for work that is cheapish, doesn't take much thought in the morning, looks professional with a couple of personal quirks and accommodates my disabilities.

Other than that, I don't give a flying fuck.

They often have better things to do with their time.

I have worked in Unis and academics on the main are the least stylish and groomed group you could meet but also one of the cleverest and most interesting.

Some of us don't have to do anything to look attractive.

Meh, I've got more important shit to do with my time than pretty up for other people who more than likely couldn't give a fuck anyway.

Some people have disabilities which mean they aren’t mobile, or have issues dressing themselves/putting on make up.
Some people have MH issues which can affect how they look after themselves.
Some people are busy looking after very young DC, or even DC with disabilities, and all their time is taken up with them.

Should they make more of an effort, Op?

When I dress up or wear make up (outside of events or interviews) it's for myself. I mostly don't do either because I mostly don't feel like it.

If people are bothered about my appearance they can avert their eyes. My purpose is not to add to the prettiness of their scenery.

Personally, I don’t want to conform to any set of standards that say I have to smear myself in crap to be acceptable to look at. So I don’t.

Your post sounds very judgy.

My godmother has never worn makeup, dyed or styled her hair, generally wears jogging bottoms with converse and a walking jacket, and still looks lovely. She isn't classically beautiful or anything but she has a kind of shine to her, she's a kind and lovely person and I think lots of people use appearance as a mask to try and be someone they're not. I know I do.

Genuinely, I always look at people who can go out with a 'thrown together' outfit, no makeup, scruffy bun etc, with admiration. We all spend way too my time on our appearance when in the end it doesn't matter.

I say that as someone who spends an hour a day on hair and makeup and still looks like shit. (not envy)

Well this is a goady thread...

Apart from a bit of face powder to prevent shiney nose /forehead I don't wear make up the vast majority of the time. A handful of times a year, if going out for a special occasion or to somewhere particularly fancy, I wear eyeshadow and mascara as well as face powder.

I hate the way foundation feels on my skin, eyeliner look ridiculous on me, eyeshadow looks nice, but I don't feel I look any "more pleasant" with it on than without it, so I mostly choose not to spend time putting it on. I have a disfigurement which is made more obvious if I wear lipstick (and I don't like leaving lipstick smudges on mugs and glasses. Or how it feels).

I have no idea what dressing well means, but my clothes are clean and tidy and fit me.

I am happy with how I look in the mirror. If anyone else thinks I don't look pleasant that's their problem. I would much prefer them to decide if they like me or not based on how I act/behave and whether I am a nice person.

Hmm.

I love clothes. When I buy new clothes and wear them, I get a buzz from knowing I look good. And when I’ve made an effort with my hair and makeup, it gives me a boost which helps the rest of my day go well. I feel more happy, more confident, more professional, and I get more done at work.

But sometimes I just can’t be bothered. For me, on a work day, not being bothered means having a quick shower, not shaving my legs, not washing my hair unless I really need to, putting on minimal makeup, and clean clothes. Why? Well, sometimes an extra 45 minutes in bed is worth more to me, especially if I don’t have any meetings.

At weekends I only dress up or wear makeup if I’m going out somewhere nice. My husband knows what I look like with dirty hair, no makeup and casual clothes on. He also knows I scrub up well. He loves me either way.

I don’t have children, or a disability, or a mental health problem. I can understand why people who have small children or depression might not bother.

Don’t judge people, you don’t know what their life is like or what their priorities are.

I don't wear makeup myself or dress well.

But I do notice people are quite shallow and don't like me for my non conventional looks. So was wondering if it's because I'm unattractive and if it's natural for people to judge on first appearances.