To rant about dieting

[Champagneandthestars]

I've just lost 3 stone over 4 months and I'm so so so so sick of dieting! It's one step forward 2 back, if I even eat one OTT (normal) meal I put on 2 lb and have to eat 800 cals a day for a week just to get rid. I have boobs and hips and I love food! I'm the person who turns up to a picnic with enough to feed an army, cheesecakes serve 4 not 8. I know how to diet, I'm just so tired of watching everything that goes in my mouth to both lose and maintain. I watch people thoughtlessly eating crisps and cakes with blind envy. I hate healthy food and just want to eat crap! Sorry for the rant, needed to get that off my chest.

As you were.

Oh god this is familiar. I am 50, 5’ 8 and am size 12. To maintain this I don’t eat very much at all. If i have a fuck it day/weekend, my clothes are immediately tighter. I love love carbs and butter and cream, and would prefer a cream tea delivered to me on the sofa, rather than a proper dinner.

I know how you feel. I am supposed to be dieting. I have until almost the end of the year but not going well. I have loads of recipes. I am trying to do the 5:2 and the recipes (both fast and feast days) look good but.....

I really must get down to it.

I know how you feel. I've put a stone on slowly since autumn - I'm usually watch closely what I eat to maintain a slim weight (not super slim but slim) and to be honest I just have not been arsed to watch what I eat like a hawk every day and that's why I've put the stone on.

Now I have a big birthday coming up in 5 weeks so I'm trying to lose the stone for that as yes, I do feel and look better with that stone off - BUT it's such a drag to go back to the careful eating all day, every day, and not having (for example) a piece of cake or a slice of pizza except on occasion, instead of in the every day.

I enjoy not having to watch what I eat carefully but then I get annoyed when my clothes don't fit as nicely or I feel galumphy and heavy.

SO although I am currently just started up again, and I feel positive about shifting the stone, I AM WITH YOU ON THE RANT.

And yes, if I overeat and put 2lb on the next day then simply not overeating or snacking for a day sees it come straight off again the following day after that. It IS just water weight.

But it's hard to not snack the next day once you've had a taste of something indulgent. Then one day overeating turns into two, then three, etc. And before you know it you've never got a grip of yourself and then you're a stone heavier. And I know if I didn't stop it now I'm headed to be a stone and a half heavier and then two stone heavier because if I carry on the way I am, it's going to continue going up and up.

But I do want to rant. Watching what you eat in order to maintain a slim figure and for health (of course) is boring and annoying and mind-consuming. Making healthy choices all the time. I just want to throw junk food into the basket with my healthy food and eat the lot but that's what I've been doing.and that's why I'm a stone heavier in 4 months. Sigh.....

It's felt good to say that though

Snap Sunday. I have been having a lovely time recently involving hot cross buns and lurpac. Sadly it can’t last.

To be fair Ajas that's basically what OP is venting about.

Coffeeorsleep hits the nail on the head with this:

Then I realised i just couldn't be slim and have double chocolate muffins. Ever again.

EXACTLY

My DH says "Up your exercise, then you can eat what you want" um no, I can't DH. To eat what I want I'd have to live in the gym with only a break for sleep and that's not practical and even then I would still put weight on.

I haven't the time or energy or will to do more exercise than I already do. Best to just not eat the chocolate muffins so I don't then feel the fear or burning them off BUT realising you can't eat chocolate muffins AND be slim is a big realisation that I only came to around 3 years ago when I dropped some proper weight, but (I think) most people just don't get.

People would see me eating a chocolate muffin (or equivalent indulgent food) and say "oh but you're so slim, how do you do it?" when what they didn't know was that I hadn't had a chocolate muffin for about 2 months and I wouldn't be doing again for another 2 months. And would probably cut back from an already pared down diet for the rest of the week.

Very few people are what you might call naturally slim with a fast metabolism. The rest of us are used to not eating a fraction of the "everyday" foods other people take for granted. Being very strict on not snacking etc. Only eating basic healthy foods (or on slack days, non-healthy foods but hardly any - for example a well known very slim female celebrity ate a chocolate bar and a biscuit or two, but that was it. Per day. So that would be around 500 calories.)

Yes it works but it is boring.

its not a fault with you hun.really it isn't.you sound like many who struggle.so it cant be just you "being bad" can it.
but its learning to ajust.to keep learning and fnding jjoy in what is now.
who you are now.love it.its a long painful process but your focusing on all that going crap yet you cant or say you cant change it so what is the only thing that can be different...how you feel about it.how you feel with just being.being at peae with the scary crzy jumble that is who and how you are.
again your reply went to fault beig yours.its not fault just something that isn't quite zen in ur world.so lets find zen! and be all ooooooommmmmm with th world that is yurs.go crazy what would it be like to be happy with who you are.
think about being happy with you.with your next maller meal with the added strawberries.oooh how would feeling good about that feel.about how you look good in red feel.smile.how good would that be
yes yes I no I'm unrealistic and all la dee fecking daaaa
I'm not belittling ur struggle.
but you can be happy.
you can
you sound lovely.

It's not possible to put on 2lb after one meal, other than the weight of the actual food. My guess is that you think you are eating 800 cals but really you are eating more. Either larger portions or under estimating cals

whatshallidonowpeople I've actually taken to eating ready prepared chicken breast with sauce etc as I can rely on the calories and don't have to worry about portion control. There is literally nothing you can teach me about weight loss. I can do it. I've done it. That 2lb was my birthday dinner and cake it my mums - took me a week to lose it. I'm not saying I need help to lose weight - most of the people on this thread no how it is done, it's just a massive ball ache that healthy food is minging and food that is bad for you is AMAZING. It's just a rant is all.,

Rick - seriously are you me?! I have also been on the hot cross buns and Lurpak! In fact I have just thrown out the last 2 hot cross buns (nobody else in the house likes them like I do!) because I've started up back on my healthy eating diet and I know if I eat them it'll be "I'll start again tomorrow"... and tomorrow never comes unless you are really firm with yourself.

But I feel resentful that I care even about being slim. I wish I didn't and could be genuinely happy with being overweight and eat exactly what I wanted. But I do care. Sigh.

I recently lost something like 3 stone, put a bunch of it back on, I have no idea where I'm sat now. I'm trying to diet, it's miserable, I hate life. I have 2 stone to lose. TWO STONE, and I can't be remotely arsed.

I'm with you OP, it sucks. I have to eat a miniscule amount of food Monday - Friday to lose anything then come the weekend I fuck it up and spend Monday - Friday trying to right it again. It's a constant cycle and I'm bored of it.

If it makes you feel any better though, when I was at my heaviest, I would buy a Ristorante pizza (the mozzarella one), a tube of sour cream pringles, a box of 12 Krispy Kreme donuts, a large sharing bag of maltesars and I kid you not I'd eat the whole lot in an evening. I'd start at about 3 when I got home and have the last donut finished before bed at 11. It was ludicrous.

Whatshall it IS possible, due to bloating and water retention, for example if something has been very salty (I love salty food). It might be half "water weight" but the scales don't care if it's water or not.

Can I join the rant too?

If I eat normally (what the guidelines say) I'd be putting on weight hand over fist. I can only lose if I am constantly hungry. I have managed to lose a stone and 2lb since new year by giving up alcohol. Its not the alcohol that makes me fat, its because being a bit tipsy lowers my resistance to random snacking and I'll eat anything that's in the kitchen when I'm like that.

I cannot see myself ever being able to eat 'normally'. After weeks of hunger I had a lunch booked with a friend last Friday. I had mushrooms for starter (gave half to DH). A vegetarian pie for main, which I ate the filling only plus half my chips. Sorbet for pudding. It put 3 sodding pounds on me, so I had to starve for 3 days to remove that.

I look at pictures of Victoria Beckham if I'm feeling weak.

Also yes @SundayGirls

If I had one wish it wouldn't be to be skinny, it would be to stay at this lardy overweight place and be fucking HAPPY about it. Imagine all the dominos I could eat?! I could eat cheesy twisted dough balls every day and be the happiest little piggy alive!!!

Well done on the weight loss. Amazing. I could live on chocolate digestives. I've had a packet of crisps and a wagon wheel for breakfast. I rarely eat a big meal, I simply don't have the capacity to eat very much in one go. But I love snacking, and do so some days, all day. However there is one difference, I struggle to keep weight on. And I believe this is due to intermittent fasting. I have days where because of my work, or simply because I'm busy I don't have time to eat. I'm also a fidgit. I don't sit still. Maybe try fasting, either one or two days a week, or maximise the hours in each day where you don't eat, such as from 6pm until 3pm the next day.

Whatshall - it is absolutely possible.

Been there. Done that. Lost motivation and kept on doing it.

My friend just lost 3 stone on the paleo diet. She had one night off and had pizza and Haagen-Dazs - gained 3lbs.

It's shit!!

Thenightsky - so true. I only lose proper weight if I’m feeling slightly hungry all the time and go to bed feeling slightly hungry.

People say “fill up on delicious healthy foods” but that doesn’t work as if I make a delicious healthy balanced salad for example, I’ll have two. If it’s delicious, I want more. Simple as that.

and I look at pictures of Laura whitmore for inspiration because she looks amazing all the time no matter what she wears!

Thanks sundaygirls was just about to cave and eat something for an early lunch but looked at pictures of Laura whitmore instead and it put me off! Those legs! Still hungry though .

Mini - see what you’re saying about crisps and wagon wheels is akin to the female celebrity I mentioned who only eats choc bars and biscuits but that’s all she eats in one day. No other proper meals.

I tried that and it worked because I don’t like big meals and am a huge snacker. But the problem is when you eat normal meals as well. It’s either normal meals and no snacking, or snacking on shit but nothing else.

now ur body shaming int punishing urself and not eating.
this is why its all going wrong!
and it horrible behaviour towards yourself

Kate - I (we?) do eat.

I just don't eat junk food when trying to lose weight.

Junk food shouldn't technically count as reward and not eating it count as punishing.

Body shaming would be talking about how you hate your body.

I don't hate my body. I'm not ashamed of my body. I prefer my body when it's slimmer rather than fatter.

In your thinking, is there no weight that is the limit? Is a person of 25 stone punishing themselves if they ate any less than their norm? Are they body shaming themselves if they said they preferred themselves at 12 stone instead of 30?

I should have said "I just don't eat all the junk food I want when trying to lose weight as I still do eat junk food just I limit it instead of eating it endlessly.

and we are discussing that junk food tastes great and it's hard to stay off it. But I (we?) know there's a balance between eating exactly what you want and staying the weight you want. It's not body shaming or horrible behaviour towards yourself to not enjoy being overweight, or being over the weight you'd prefer to be.

Totally agree Sundaygirl.

Had a little smile at “ slither” instead of “ sliver” 🙂

I think Laura Whitmore is vegan. You could try that? Vegan whole foods is meant to be a good one. LW does look amazing. Not just slim, but glowing with health.