To rant about dieting

[Champagneandthestars]

I've just lost 3 stone over 4 months and I'm so so so so sick of dieting! It's one step forward 2 back, if I even eat one OTT (normal) meal I put on 2 lb and have to eat 800 cals a day for a week just to get rid. I have boobs and hips and I love food! I'm the person who turns up to a picnic with enough to feed an army, cheesecakes serve 4 not 8. I know how to diet, I'm just so tired of watching everything that goes in my mouth to both lose and maintain. I watch people thoughtlessly eating crisps and cakes with blind envy. I hate healthy food and just want to eat crap! Sorry for the rant, needed to get that off my chest.

As you were.

@CosmicSpider I am in awe of your self control. Do you have that level of self control and discipline in other areas of your life too? Imagine what you could achieve.

I can't achieve anything else. The weightloss has consumed all the effort I am willing to put into anything

I had no self control.

I had a heart attack at Christmas, aged 50ish.

I have many regrets about past eating choices (cheesecake isn't worth the thought of leaving my kids with no mum).

but sure as hell I have found my self-control now.

I haven't RTFT yet so maybe someone's said that already, but have you thought of trying 5:2, where you fast 2 days a week and eat normally on the other 5? I'm like you, I love food and have struggled with weight all my life and diets are so depressing. 5:2 works for me, I'm not super strict on non-fasting days so I am losing weight slowly but I am losing!

Just popped back on - some people seriously don't get where some of us are coming from. We KNOW what we need to eat to lose weight, we just don't like healthy food so it is a continuous slog. Lots of people have mentioned 5:2 - of course I've done 5:2! But to actually lose any weight I was on 2x500cal and 5x1200 cal and it made me grumpy and tired because there was no light of 'eat what you like' 5 days a week as I couldn't or I would just gain. Too true about the planning! In a teacher and mother and become a bit crapper teacher and mother when I diet as calorie counting and meal planning (and generally thinking about food) takes priority .

Just off to have a single poached egg on toast with the crust cut off (saves you 40cals ) for breakfast. Would rather be eating cheesy scrambled egg with more cheese than egg on thick cut white farmhouse bread dripping in butter. But there is my lot.

I had my poached egg (140) with a grilled tomato(25), a couple of grilled big flat mushrooms (40) and a half can of baked beans (150).

Will keep me full til 2pm.

Or I could have had a toasted hot cross bun with butter (300) (I may have that tomorrow) will need fruit/veg mid morning.

Beyond you're not the Beyond from the Slenderista threads?

OP I feel your pain I'm sure they mean well but it's so frustrating when people miss the point!

Yes, frustrating posting to have a rant about how bloody hard something is... get loads of post asking if you've tried other hard ways of doing it

Does anyone else get frustrated with the media shots of so -called celebs who look amazing and claim to have worked really hard when perhaps they have done but have also had lipsuction and tummy tucks to help them on their way?? Kerry katona I'm looking at you!! And the likes of Liz Hurley who looks fantastic but when you look at what she eats - I would keel over! I have no problem working in the gym to try and achieve a half decent body but I would be so miserable cutting my food back to the extent that I need to in order to look like the media idea of perfect.

Plus I have a 3 x c-section pouch which will never go without surgery

Blobby Yes... and they fail to mention that they probably lock themselves away is some stunning chateau based health spa in the Swiss mountains that has Michelin star chefs cooking their very tiny but nutritious meals. And a nanny for the DC. No getting in from work shattered and having to make beans and fish fingers for the kids, then collapsing with the take-away menu for them, oh no.

Yrs these celebs follow incredibly tough regimes to look like they do but they have plenty of time and paid help to do it.

I had to laugh at the Laura Whitmore began suggestion (sorry to whoever mentioned it) If you have disordered eating a vegan diet would be just a mountain to climb, I'd imagine. If I was to try a vegan diet, Id last about 2 days, and those days would be filled with misery! And you can be far and began. Laura Whitmore won't get a job (whatever her job is) if she ate mountains of food and did no exercise. That's why she's a vegan.

That should say ' you can be fat and vegan.' -plain chocolate, fake cheese and meat, pasta, potatoes slathered in vegan marge etc etc

I am the same I can eat a lot and I love all sorts of rubbish food, also I’m very disorganised and can’t be arsed with the organising of my healthy flavoursome dinners.
I only seem to lose weight if I eat practically nothing. And no carbs. Unfortunately I love carbs. But they don’t suit me so I have to realise that I just can’t eat them in the amounts that normal people do.
I’ve been trying to get off my weight that I gained recently and I’ve lost about 1.5 stones unfortunately I need to lose at least another 3 stones it’s so shit. I get through the day and it’s gone well then I realise I have to do it all again tomorrow. And the next day... it’s never bloody ending

it’s never bloody ending

I was thinking this just now too. Up to the day my mum died, she was still on a bloody diet!

Beyond you're not the Beyond from the Slenderista threads
don't think so... I post lots of crap stuff on lots of threads, but no, doesn't ring a bell.

raised LW was only mentioned as she looks in shape plus very glowing, and someone said they thought she was vegan. Nobody can really know that for definite, it's speculation as to what she does and tbh it's none of our business, she looks great in everything she wears and very healthy.

And also there's nothing wrong with veganism, I've tried it myself before and as a veggie it wasn't too much of a step up, and I don't think people here are talking about "disordered eating", you've kind of made that link but I can't see where anyone else meant it. It's more general moaning about how we like/gravitate towards junk food but if we want to maintain a slim figure then you can't eat all the junk you like and still do that. Simple as that really. And you don't have to be vegan to be slim. It's not a magic wand - nothing is. Simple calories in should equal more calories burned to lose weight, and matched to maintain weight.

Have you tried losing weight at a much slower rate?

Like you, I love my food - and have tried all sorts of ways to shift the weight, but have always failed to keep it off as I revert back to a binge mentality.

I've lost 30lbs in about a year, have a bit to go yet - a lot slower than your (amazing) loss. But for the first time, it has been manageable and sustainable (even, dare I say it, enjoyable), because I've been losing while eating around 1700 cals a day (not doing much exercise other than walking about). This allows me to have a bit of the bad stuff, as well as a lot of good food. While I learned regularly eating half a cheesecake in one go is probably not the best way to do things, I could eat a bar of chocolate or have a slice of cake as part of my daily allowance if I wanted to - this made me less fixated on what I couldn't have and I slowly learned to be satisfied with a regular portion rather than several portions! If I have an occasional really bad splurge, I now just go back to "normal" the next day and not let it spiral out of control. But it is a learning curve that takes quite a bit of time, and one I'm still on.

At first, I was losing around 2lbs per week which then slowed to 0.5 - 1lbs per week (on average - tbh I find it better to consider loss month to month, as there are so many variations week to week due to menstrual cycle, water retention etc).

I've been taking a bit of time off and maintaining the loss for the past couple of months and that has been quite easy not to put on weight (I maintain at about 2000 calories a day - so not too much of a shock from 1700 cals). However, I'm starting up again to shift the last 14lbs. As I'm now lighter, I'm looking at increasing my exercise rather than decreasing my calories in order to lose - as I feel happy and healthy doing it in a slow and steady way.

I'm 5ft9, so fairly tall - if you are shorter, you may not be able to lose on 1700 cals, but you should be able to lose on considerably more calories than 800 per day. There are lots of calculators online that will help you assess this - maybe start by setting at a 1lb loss a week and see if that calorie range suits you. If too low, go to 1/2 lb a week.

You won't lose at the rapid rate you have been, but it is likely to be more sustainable in the long run - and even allows the odd chunk of cheesecake, so you won't be as miserable!

Yazoop that is good advice indeed but for me personally at least, I am well within a healthy BMI already (22) but that is just averagely slim (roughly a size 10) and I like to be around a BMI 20 and a size 8. I am already slim enough by lots of people's standards but I'd like to be vanity slim, as such, as I look better in clothes when I am. Simple as that

Totally feel you on this. I do love meals, but if you were to ask me what my ideal day of food would be:
Milky tea & poached egg on buttery, cheesy toast
McDonalds sausage, egg and cheese bagel with a hash brown and ketchup to dip, vanilla milkshake to wash it down
Fish, chips, mushy peas and curry sauce with a battered sausage to dunk from the chippy for lunch
Cup of tea and biscuits for an afternoon snack, maybe followed by an ice cream
A stream of food for dinner, not on a plate together, but just a constant stream of 'happy' food- chicken dippers, smiley faces, sausage rolls, garlic bread, mini burgers
Round off with pringles, cake and custard
All supplemented with lots of milky tea.

Instead I've just had slimming world- friendly bolognaise for lunch, with no pasta as my body can't handle more than one portion of carbs a day or it hangs on to weight.

^^And, before it sounds like I'm being smug, I was a size 16 for a good number of years and weighed 14st and had an unhealthy BMI that nudged me into the obese category, so I have worked hard to get it down to a healthy one. But once you've reached a goal, the maintenance can be just as hard as it's tempting to blow it a little here and there - but the here and there can join together and before you know it, you're 2st up again.

The thought of eating salad every day (or even just one day a week) makes me very sad.

OP, you are misinformed...

You think this affects you, and a few others, but let me tell you that every single slim person goes through these mental struggles. Every single slim person is slim because they are careful about what they eat.

There are lots of people who like to wind fatter people up by claiming to be "naturally slim", yet when they are alone they are just very careful about what they eat, though they may make a big show about eating pizza,when out with you.

We all love food, well, at least 95% of people do. And for everyone being slim takes effort and some degree of self denial.

Inside most slim people, there is a fat person screaming to be let out