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Aibu to think he’ll struggle coming back from this (Ant)

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Fruitbat1980 · 18/03/2018 23:17

What a stupid boy. Worth 60 million and doesn’t get a taxi. I just don’t know how he’ll come back from this latest fiasco (drink drive car crash hits 3 year old).

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LucilleBluth · 19/03/2018 12:48

Could he have been agitated because he believed he didn't cause the crash but was being breathalysed on the street after his recent troubles....and a heavy night out.

Bluelady · 19/03/2018 12:49

Absolutely, IF he was drunk he deserves everything the legal system throws at him. Same IF he caused the accident. Both those things remain to be determined.

BitOutOfPractice · 19/03/2018 12:49

Well he failed a roadside breath test frank

That was no little shunt was it? The state of the cars!

NewYearNewMe18 · 19/03/2018 12:49

Also I noticed the morning shows on ITV were going very soft on Ant this morning. Wayne Rooney didn't get the same soft ride last year did he? I hate the way ITV protects its own.

(A) man probably hung over from night before has a shunt whilst ferrying his mother and dog to/from park.
(B) habitual drunk debauched lothario picks up tart wannabe in early hours of the morning after night clubbing for quick shag behind pregnant wifes back

Let me think on that for mo - which one is going to get really condemned in the press ....

BitOutOfPractice · 19/03/2018 12:49

Driving over the limit is illegal whether you're in a crash or not

CuboidalSlipshoddy · 19/03/2018 12:52

Could he have been agitated because he believed he didn't cause the crash but was being breathalysed on the street after his recent troubles....and a heavy night out.

He failed a breath test in the aftermath of a car accident. You don't get to argue whether you should be breathalysed when you've just stepped out of a damaged car with a couple of other damaged cars nearby. You shut the fuck up and blow into the nice lady's machine, because if you haven't been drinking you haven't got a problem, and if you have been drinking, being an arse about it isn't going to help.

Here's a clue: if you're worried you might fail a breath test, try avoiding drinking and driving. If you can't avoid it, you're an alcoholic and/or a tosser.

Snowjoker · 19/03/2018 12:54

He was not hung over from the night before at almost 4 pm.
And if he was, that was a hell of a bender and he should have not driven anyway. What a lot of excuses are being made.

Snowjoker · 19/03/2018 12:56

I'm also pretty sure that if someone else was the cause of an accident (which does not seem to be the case here) that having been drinking means you still contributed to the accident as your reaction times would be so poor - you couldn't take the normal evasive action that might be expected.
It's like speeding - if someone pulls out in front of you that's their fault, but if you're doing 50 instead of 30 that will make it impossible for you to stop in time.

whampiece · 19/03/2018 12:56

argumentative with the WPC

WPC Confused

Mumto2two · 19/03/2018 13:00

I was involved in an accident with my young daughter in the car, and yes it was scary. And what was scarier, was the fact that the car was being driven by a 90 yr old who had no idea where he was or what he was doing, had mounted pavements and veered across the road before hitting another car head on. Both he and his elderly wife were clueless as to what had happened, while myself and my daughter were incredibly shaken up. Did anyone care? No.
Did I hear back from the police, having taken all my details as a key witness etc..no.
There are many reasons why people have accidents...and there are some people who should simply not be on the roads for whatever reason. It doesn't help to speculate, extrapolate or condemn. But as ever, MN seems to thrive on doing just that.

NewYearNewMe18 · 19/03/2018 13:00

He was not hung over from the night before at almost 4 pm.

For the 30 millionth time not everyone is up/awake 6am to 10pm .... some people do shift work, some people do live TV shows which with the wrap, the after party, St Paddys day - and Christ on a bike there are enough threads on this forum with wimmin complaining their other halves are still in bed at 11am/noon on a weekend - for some people 4pm is breakfast time .

BitOutOfPractice · 19/03/2018 13:02

W're not speculating that he failed a breath test. It's in the police statement

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CuboidalSlipshoddy · 19/03/2018 13:03

for some people 4pm is breakfast time

Sounds like a good reason to get a taxi, rather than driving yourself, eh?

IanRushesInadequateFlushes · 19/03/2018 13:05

If only a multi millionaire TV star could get a taxi...

WashingMatilda · 19/03/2018 13:07

WPC hahahahahahhahahahahhahahha

JaneyEJones · 19/03/2018 13:13

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Bouledeneige · 19/03/2018 13:30

Well I'd go with Occam's razor on this. Who is most likely to be the cause of the accident? Agitated drunk driver who resists arrest or one of the other two drivers? Eye witnesses also suggested he lost control round a corner and was on the wrong side of the road - we will have to see if that's true. The damage to the cars was pretty significant - it wasn't a little shunt. I've been involved in a head on collision and its really scarey. It will have been very frightening and shocking for the other road users involved. Its really immaterial how he got that drunk and was still worse for wear at 4pm - he shouldn't have been in charge of a vehicle and judging by his agitated response he was probably identifiably not in a fit state to drive from the outset.

Sure that might be jumping to conclusions. But even if someone else was at fault being drunk would impair decision making and the ability to react. That's why its illegal.

I don't care at all about comparisons with other celebrities. I hope he is treated the same as anyone else would be. I cant bear it when celebrities get away with things others wouldn't. Its the same law for everyone.

CuboidalSlipshoddy · 19/03/2018 13:33

There are now more photographs of the damaged cars. There's a lot of energy in the accident. McPartlin's Mini is under wraps, but appears to have sustained massive damage around the driver's side A post, and the damage to the green Mini looks like it's been struck head on. That's not a slow-speed shunt around town: at least one of the cars was going very quickly.

With modern traction control and stability control you don't just "lose control" of a car. A well-known F1 engineer once said ""Understeer is when they hit the Armco with the front of the car; oversteer, on the other hand, is when they hit the Armco with the rear of the car." But if you are driving a car fitted with ABS, stability control and traction control (all banned in F1, all fitted to a recent Mini) then the technology intervenes long before over- or understeer are issues.

So even on a slippery road you have to drive like a complete maniac, or a drunken tosser, to "lose control". The electronics will intervene long before you are out of control, unless you are driving so inappropriately for the conditions that you have no traction and the car has no means to control itself. The worst that will normally happen is that you misjudge braking distances and slither into something, slowly, the ABS/ESP keeping the car in roughly the direction you point it. To get a car facing the wrong way at speed involves a great deal more than an unfortunate encounter with a patch of ice or some spilt diesel. It involves going quickly, driving erratically and overriding/ignoring the warning signs the car will be giving you.

NewYearNewMe18 · 19/03/2018 13:37

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RachelTeeth · 19/03/2018 13:46

*Can the PP's who keep bleating on about 'wait until the court case' remember that driving over prescribed limit is an 'absolute' offence, meaning anyone providing an evidential breath test in custody (roadside not evidential) over 40mg will automatically be charged with the full offence. (35mg is the legal limit but no charge unless 40mg)

The conditions (ie how long he will be banned for, rehab, suspended sentence) will be decided by court but once you've blown over - that's it. There's no legal defence to drink driving so no need for all this 'innocent until proven guilty' nonsense.*

THIS.

People falling over themselves to justify a millionaire choosing to drink drive-fucking trash.

Kitchenbound · 19/03/2018 13:48

Sounds like something a sexist twat would say.Or a realist. Spare me all the ' wimminz can sleepz widda whoedda dey wantz' shite. We all know what women who hang round footballers are. what the blue hell?

WashingMatilda · 19/03/2018 13:49

newyearnewme18 I kind of thought you were a tool from your first post but now you've sealed it.

Think you should have kept your 2017 self hun.