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“I apologise if I’ve offended you”

344 replies

MadMaryBoddington · 13/03/2018 09:19

AIBU to think this is a mealy-mouthed, patronising, inadequate excuse for an apology.

Just had ‘words’ with a van driver who had mounted the kerb and was driving with two wheels along the pavement on the village high street this morning.

Five year old ds was running ahead of me on the way to school, and suddenly there was this van driving along the pavement towards him. I yelled at ds to STOP, he did, about three metres in front of the van. Van carried on moving. I raced up to him, grabbed ds, and the driver then pulled off the kerb as I approached his window to yell at him.

He did not appear to think he’d done anything wrong. He ‘apologised if he had offended me’. Offended! I asked if he had children and how he would feel if he saw his child running along a pavement with a large vehicle approaching along it. He said he did have kids, and that he could assure me that he ‘was in full control of his vehicle the whole time’.

I’m raging. The high street is narrow. This happened at a pinch point where vehicles cannot pass side by side if they are large. Legally they should wait for a gap, but often they mount the kerb instead, especially at rush hour. It always makes me angry but they do at least usually stop dead if they see a pedestrian and pull off the pavement straight away. This guy carried on driving.

I normally keep the dc close to me or hold their hands along this stretch of road so that I can grab them if necessary. It’s typical that this morning I had my hands full with musical instruments and bags and so on and was momentarily distracted by saying something to dd behind me, and ds had run further ahead than I’d have liked.

Ironically it was a Highways Agency van.

OP posts:
IHATEPeppaPig · 13/03/2018 11:01

OP, YANBU I have started threads before about cars parking on the pavements and it drives me insane!

I can't believe you have been given such a hard time on this thread OP - HE was driving illegally. And whilst yes, in an ideal world all the perfectly behaved children would be happily holding their parents hands skipping to school - the fact is that people SHOULD be safe on pavements without dickhead drivers thinking that they not only have eight of way on the road but now the pavement too!

NoqontroI · 13/03/2018 11:01

NoqontroI Actually on a road like the OP describes I wouldn't be letting mine run ahead whether they have the right to or not, because of scenarios like this.

Well super. Good for you. However the van driver was still not supposed to be driving on the pavement, and the sense that somehow this is the ops fault and not the van drivers, along with the view that he should be allowed to get away driving like a twat is astounding.

mellicauli · 13/03/2018 11:03

Children may be notorious for poor road sense..but this child wasn't on the road, he was on the pavement, where they should be free to walk unbothered by motor vehicles. Why should drivers who don't feel like following the rules make prisoners of our children? Isn't their freedom to play curtailed enough by drivers already?

And yes that's no apology because the driver obviously made no effort to understand how he'd caused offence. He might as well said shut up.

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 13/03/2018 11:06

Well it isn't " super good for me " is it? I am the one in charge of my dc on a busy main road and cannot preempt dickhead drivers so because of that I keep them next to me.

And I haven't said he should be allowed to drive however he likes so stop making things up.

Mummyoflittledragon · 13/03/2018 11:06

Good on you for reporting him. It would be good if he were be made to go on a driving refresher course, the sort of thing speeding motorists go on.

Talith · 13/03/2018 11:08

I'd have been fuming too to be honest. It's illegal to drive along a pavement and reckless to do it at a time when there's a lot of pedestrians and kids are using them.

I'd have photographed his numberplate and reported him. Having had the pleasure of colliding with a hatchback at a young age I know the sound it makes and what the fall out can be.

IHATEPeppaPig · 13/03/2018 11:09

@GreatDuckCookery give it a rest- you've made your point, several times.

purplelass · 13/03/2018 11:10

OK - so all those people saying children should be OK to run ahead without a care... yes I agree that they should
However, if there was a part of your daily walk to school where you knew idiots regularly drove up onto the pavement, however illegal it is, are you still saying you'd let your child run ahead just to prove a point?

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 13/03/2018 11:11

I am responding to different posters. Which is allowed on a public forum you know Smile

NoqontroI · 13/03/2018 11:11

Well it isn't " super good for me " is it? I am the one in charge of my dc on a busy main road and cannot preempt dickhead drivers so because of that I keep them next to me.

That's great. Have a shiny medal for getting it right every time. 🏅

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 13/03/2018 11:16

You really think I'm wrong for making sure I keep my dc close by on a busy main road?
Funny outlook I have to say!

RadioGaGoo · 13/03/2018 11:16

Ah, don't worry OP. I bet most of the posters suggesting that you are partially to blame because you were not in total control of your child have probably done something similar in the past.

Dungeondragon15 · 13/03/2018 11:17

However, if there was a part of your daily walk to school where you knew idiots regularly drove up onto the pavement, however illegal it is, are you still saying you'd let your child run ahead just to prove a point?

It's not relevant to the question of whether OP should be angry or report though. He did something dangerous and illegal and should be reported for it. Telling OP that she is partly to blame because they haven't protected themselves against another person's illegal actions is similar to blaming victims of rape or other crime.

purplelass · 13/03/2018 11:20

Telling OP that she is partly to blame because they haven't protected themselves against another person's illegal actions is similar to blaming victims of rape or other crime.

Absolute bullshit

Dungeondragon15 · 13/03/2018 11:23

My back door is unlocked. If someone walks in and steals my bag should I not be angry and not report to the police? After all I could have locked the door and perhaps prevented the crime? Am I just angry with myself because I didn't lock the door and taking it out on the poor burglar.Hmm

lottiegarbanzo · 13/03/2018 11:25

Of course dcs should be kept safe by parents as far as possible, including, where necessary, being held onto. But, that isn't what OP is asking about and has no causal relationship with the driver's behaviour.

It is therefore irrelevant to whether she's right to be angry with and report the driver.

Would this driver have stayed on the road if the child's hand was being held? Would handholding have protected the child from being hit by a pavement-mounting car? Maybe, maybe not.

ladypippa · 13/03/2018 11:26

When someone has said something or done something that has upset you/hurt you/made you cry..'

'Well, I can't really help the way you feel.....'

Cunts.

Aridane · 13/03/2018 11:26

Cannot believe the pasting the OP is getting here (instead of the reckless driver)

theftbyfinding · 13/03/2018 11:28

YANBU OP. Cannot believe some posters think you overreacted.

SossidgeRoll · 13/03/2018 11:31

It's so odd the number of victim blaming posts you see on Mumsnet. Your kid nearly got hit by a car? Well, I never let mine walk ahead.
Your kids don't eat well? Well, I buy magic chickens that last all week and the DC's eat it with lentils.
You had an argument in a mother and baby parking space? Well I always shop online.
You were verbally abused at the supermarket about your naughty toddler? Well mine walked around in silence from 10 months onwards or was strapped in a trolley and knew how to behave.
It's so bosom hoiky and odd.
OP I on a pavement DC's have as much right as adults to WALK ALONG without fear of being hit by a lorry.
The same thing happened to me with a buggy when a post van mounted the curb to get to the post box. The driver was not at all contrite and he genuinely clipped the buggy wheel. Wanker.

GreatDuckCookery6211 · 13/03/2018 11:31

Ah, don't worry OP. I bet most of the posters suggesting that you are partially to blame because you were not in total control of your child have probably done something similar in the past.

Surely in that case those posters would understand where the OP is coming from and not be saying that it would have been wiser to have the child close by and not running ahead?

OohMavis · 13/03/2018 11:32

This happened on the school run once. A woman mounted the kerb and drove along it at speed towards DS who was 4 at the time. I'm convinced she didn't even see him. I managed to get to him in time and pull him out of the way and SCREAMED at her, she rolled her eyes at me and drove off. All to avoid having to wait for oncoming traffic to go round her.

It's fucking terrifying and I'm biased, but you didn't overreact.

cucaracha · 13/03/2018 11:33

For what it's worth, if you see a van driving towards you on the pavement towards you, instead of using the road where it should be, you would report even if you were holding your child's hand at the time!

NoqontroI · 13/03/2018 11:34

You really think I'm wrong for making sure I keep my dc close by on a busy main road? Funny outlook I have to say!

No, I'm admiring how perfect you are for getting it right every time.

Lethaldrizzle · 13/03/2018 11:35

Yanbu at all! Most van drivers are arrogant twats. In my experience!

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