Even if you subpoena us, we won't turn up on the Trump threads

[PerkingFaintly]

Oh whoops, here we are.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3180160-Trump-talk-HOW-MUCH-for-that-inauguration?pg=1

My feeling is that the gop won’t act unless mueller’s makes public in a formal legal way some incontrovertible evidence at which point, they may turn against trump. Until then though they will actively impede and try and shut down it down to stop it getting to that point, which they do not want to face

Those are the conditions under which I think they may make a stand but its highly likely they won’t take any action at all.

Manu Raju
@mkraju
Lindsey Graham reiterates this to Trump when asked by @jaketapper about the potential firing of Mueller. “If he tried to do that, that would be the beginning of the end of his presidency. We are a rule-of-laws nation. “

Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
WOW. Trey GOWDY addresses Trump's lawyer this AM:

"if you have an innocent client Mr. Dowd, act like it.”

GOWDY also emphasizes that House Intel Committee's Russia report is NOT conclusive about collusion only that they didn't get evidence of collusion from witnesses they talked to and didn't talk to Flynn, Manafort, Papadopoulos, etc.

"You don’t know what you don’t know."

Shades of Donald Rumsfeld! (‘There are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.’ )

Senate Judiciary Dem calls on Zuckerberg to testify before committee

thehill.com/homenews/senate/378978-senate-judiciary-dem-calls-on-zuckerberg-to-testify-before-committee

Does that feed into the dunning Kruger effect?

This is just bizarre.

Russian Embassy, UK
Verified account

@RussianEmbassy
Follow Follow @RussianEmbassy

In absence of evidence, we definitely need Poirot in Salisbury!

Trump is a prime example of Dunning-Kruger IMO.
The the most genius example, the best, they all say so, and very stable

www.ft.com/content/7ed1572c-2aa4-11e8-a34a-7e7563b0b0f4

'Cambridge Analytica scrambles to pull Channel 4 exposé.'

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/379002-report-kushner-companies-routinely-filed-false-paperwork-with?amp&__twitter_impression=true

AP Exclusive: Kushner Cos. filed false documents with NYC

apnews.com/amp/002703e70347481cb993027d04f543cc?__twitter_impression=true

Jay Rosen
@jayrosen_nyu
Wow. In the UK, Channel 4 reporters "posed as prospective clients and had a series of meetings with Cambridge Analytica that they secretly filmed—including at least one with Alexander Nix, its chief executive."

Exclusive: Sources contradict Sessions' testimony he opposed George Papadopoulos proposal for Trump’s campaign team to meet with Russians - 3 people who attended March mtg said they gave their version of events to FBI agents or congressional investigators

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1GU0NC#click=t.co/RwGGp4Rkph" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1GU0NC#click=t.co/RwGGp4Rkph

Perhaps that’s why he wasn’t removed. He pulled a Flynn

Speaking of whom, let’s not forget his links to Cambridge Analytica

Andrew S. Weiss
@andrewsweiss
Mike Flynn also worked as a consultant for Cambridge Analytica parent company SCL per his Aug17 financial disclosure filing @thamburger

From just before his inauguration: Why Donald Trump will be the Dunning-Kruger President

Kyle Cheney
@kyledcheney
CONAWAY says House Intel Committee did NOT conclude there was no collusion between Trump campaign and Russia. "What we said is that we found no evidence of it. That's a different statement."

He notes they didn't talk to several central witnesses.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/donald-trump-justin-trudeau-lies-pathological-dangerous-a8261886.html

'A leaked audio recording of Trump recalling his talks with the Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau at a private fundraising event in Missouri revealed that Trump isn't deluded; he knows what he's doing, and he enjoys it.'

Betsy!

Trump Organization - greatest oxymoron in history.

i can’t believe we’re almost at the end of the thread

This might be useful shegot

Amy siskind weekly update:

theweeklylist.org/weekly-list/week-70/

From lionheart's Indy link – something we've discussed before:

And it’s the fact that Trump is a political liar. The lies are not simply intended to deceive; they are, as the Russian dissident Masha Gessen has argued, a brute assertion of the primacy of power over truth, of a conception of power that simply does not recognise the authority of truth.

Trump says something that is untrue, that people around him know is untrue, that he himself knows to be untrue, and which he knows they know is untrue. Why? As a statement of his authority and the absolute nature of it. As the Missouri audio also reveals, the job of his aides, when a lie is told by their master, is to locate some evidence that his assertions are, in fact, correct.

By forcing his spokespeople and subordinates to repeat, defend or rationalise his blatant falsehoods in public, he destroys their own reputations and their own sense of self-respect.

(The article it links to by Masha Gessen also looks interesting, though I haven't read it properly: www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/trump-and-putin-strong-connection-lies/)

Anybody want to volunteer to be the new thread-starter? Or at least come up with name?

Meanwhile, in other news (caveat, I don't know much about this magazine):

Everything to Know About the Supreme Court Case on Fake Women’s Health Centers
www.thecut.com/2018/03/all-about-the-scotus-case-on-crisis-pregnancy-ceners.html

Very quickly: What are crisis pregnancy centers?
In short, they’re faith-based centers that pose as abortion-providing health-care clinics. In 2013, it was estimated that about 2,500 centers exist around the country.

How exactly do they threaten abortion clinics?
Those behind CPCs tend to deliberately open centers close to abortion-providing clinics and market themselves as women’s health centers to confuse patients. Outside the clinics themselves, CPC employees — many of whom don’t have medical experience — will attempt to lure women seeking an abortion into their center instead. An example: In Jackson, Mississippi, Center for Pregnancy Choices, a CPC, opened just 100 yards from Jackson Women’s Health Organization — the state’s only abortion clinic.