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White privilege... really? In schools??!

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stellenbosch · 10/03/2018 23:19

To quote Bastille, 'the world's gone mad' ...

White privilege... really? In schools??!
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missperegrinespeculiar · 10/03/2018 23:39

Yes, they are still privileged because they didn't suffer form racism as they worked hard to get to a better place, in the same way that a person of colour who is upper class is advantaged, in term of class, over a white working class person

why are you happy to point out the disadvantage of the working class but not that of the coloured people (or women, or disabled etc.etc.)?

are you white? does it make you uncomfortable to think you have advantages because of that?

Clem7 · 10/03/2018 23:39

As a Canadian, I say "Thanks Trudeau”
Not a big fan of Justin, but BC has an NDP/Green coalition government; isn’t this more likely to be their doing than the federal government?

YassQueen · 10/03/2018 23:40

But, cos they are white, they are privileged somehow?

Yes.

That doesn't mean they need to be ashamed of being white. It doesn't mean they've done anything wrong. But it's important to acknowledge that there are privileges that come with being white, and to have an open discussion about race and how it affects things.

NearlyThirtyDad · 10/03/2018 23:40

As a non white person the term white privilege is beyond nonsense m. All it seeks to achieve is create a vacuum for non-white kids where they are told they are victims and always will be victims due to some shadow meta racism that no one can really put they're finger on. If they actually wanted to help, let's not over-complicate this - Racism is bad, when you see Racism point it out and we can combat it together anything else is fighting ghosts.

NotACleverName · 10/03/2018 23:41

So people who are white have to be ashamed of their skin colour? Niiice

That's totally what the poster is saying. Well done you, hitting the nail on the head with a fish once again.

But, cos they are white, they are privileged somehow?

You can lack class privilege but still have racial privilege HTH.

ALittleBitOfButter · 10/03/2018 23:44

I think the wording is terrible. It would be better to say, "the history of racism which has benefited whites is unacceptable".

blackteasplease · 10/03/2018 23:46

Because being white is an advantage over being black. Doesn't matter if there are other factors in the mix too.

A white disabled person from a poor background will have more disadvantages than advantages but doesn't mean that being white isn't advantage.

(But again that would be a good reason not to make the person in the picture disabled, which they haven't done)

Ivebeenaroundtheblock · 10/03/2018 23:46

Stellenbosch....yes in Canada, being poor and white is in NO WAY the same as being first nations and living in poverty.
the level of poverty some first nations experience is unbelievable.
several first nations reserves don't even have safe drinking water.

nocoolnamesleft · 10/03/2018 23:46

The wording isn't great. But the denial of the existence of white privilege is very blinkered.

Stillscreaming · 10/03/2018 23:47

@blackteaplease

I also hope there's one with man saying "I've benefited unfairly as a result of my sex" if we are going to talk

Do you remember all of those men on International Women's Day who asked when International Men's Day was? Do you remember how we laughed at them?

NorthEndGal · 10/03/2018 23:48

I've got a spoon, may as well stir the pot...
What shade of white do you have to be, to become privillaged?
What if you are white looking, but 1/8 first nation?
What if you are part part Asian, part White?
Who decides how you get to identify?
Does your upbring or lived experience get any bearing?

IfyouseeRitaMoreno · 10/03/2018 23:48

The problem about privilege is that those that have it don’t know they have it.

So just telling them they have it is unlikely to have an effect.

A far more effective method would be to have a series of posters with white people pointing out things they take for granted that black people don’t.

A bit like the exercise where they ask men what they do stop themselves being sexually harassed. Because that is something men don’t need to think about.

YTho · 10/03/2018 23:49

Nothing wrong with acknowledging your privileges. Of course it doesn't tell the whole story.

UpstartCrow · 10/03/2018 23:50

How does this poster inform, enlighten, assist or enable anyone?

Cavender · 10/03/2018 23:51

I live in the southern USA in a wealthy area.

Statistically my white son is likely to find it easier to get a job, get promoted, earn more etc etc than his Black, Indian or Latino classmates even if they have the same grades and come from prosperous backgrounds.

He’s also likely to find it easier than his sister.

That isn’t his fault. But I’m raising him to be aware of his privilege. It’s an easy to think “I achieved because I worked hard” if you don’t realise the head starts society gives you just by being white. Particularly a white male.

Stillscreaming · 10/03/2018 23:54

How does this poster inform, enlighten, assist or enable anyone?

It has managed to start a conversation here. First steps and all that...

Charolais · 10/03/2018 23:56

I have raised two sons in the U.S. The first from my marriage to my former husband who is a Black American and the second from my current marriage to a White American.

Two boys, one black one white, now both adults. The oldest son was given more opportunities because he was ‘ black’. People bent over backwards to help, advise etc whenever they could. My youngest son did not get any breaks at all.

I wrote ‘black’ even thought my oldest son is bi-racial because in America he is considered black.

The racism in this country was reignite by Obama and his wife and has caused division between the races which, is growing. If this country were as racist as some would like to make out 45 years ago, I would certainly not given up my middle-class life in England to struggle along side of the down trodden. And I would have not stood still for any racism. I would have noticed.

SilenceIsBroken · 10/03/2018 23:56

Agree that it's a shit poster as it will just get people's backs up.

But it's an important issue, and one we all need to understand. Anyone who says "there is no white privilege" is white and hasn't seen the way privilege/racism works. Just like men saying "there is no such thing as inequality because I haven't seen it."

BertrandRussell · 10/03/2018 23:57

People with privilege always get so outraged when it’s pointed out to them! Grin

blackteasplease · 10/03/2018 23:57

stillscreaming that's not the same! That's like looking at this poster and saying that there should be a poster saying how hard white people have it!

If someone mentioned on international women's day that there wasn't an international black awareness day (or similar) they wouldn't be laughed at.

You could say it's irrelevant but what I mean is that I think an overall campaign about the different kinds of privilege would be more useful than just doing one on white privilege. So able bodied privilege is another example.

blackteasplease · 10/03/2018 23:58

And to be clear, I like the poster!

StaplesCorner · 11/03/2018 00:00

I'm confused about all this - is the poster aimed at people in Canada? I'm not sure I know much if anything about society in any part of Canada, I'd be guessing. Is it a big issue there then? Is it a very racist society, are there very few black people in Canada? Or is it referring to native people?

WhalesOfYore · 11/03/2018 00:01

Far-left indoctrination proceeding apace in Canada, I see!

Cavender · 11/03/2018 00:03

Charolais That’s interesting that you don’t see any racism because I haven’t found it difficult to see it.

WhalesOfYore · 11/03/2018 00:03

BertrandRussell

People with privilege always get so outraged when it’s pointed out to them!

Oh yes - just like when transwomen point out the privilege of so-called "ciswomen", right?

Right?

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