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White privilege... really? In schools??!

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stellenbosch · 10/03/2018 23:19

To quote Bastille, 'the world's gone mad' ...

White privilege... really? In schools??!
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Aeroflotgirl · 12/03/2018 12:45

I am not saying it does not happen down, of course it does, but that can be for somebody who does not fit the typical caucasian look.

Aeroflotgirl · 12/03/2018 12:47

I agree, being non caucasian looking can be disadvantage. I hope that it is better than it has been, but with your experiences at the airport and others in similar situations, it is still there and has not been totally erradicated. I am not sure if it ever will, rather like Male priviledge or able bodied priviledge.

Dipitydoda · 12/03/2018 12:49

Gosh Bert, I don’t work in a law firm either, I’m not sure my post actually indicates that I do! But just keep making your assumptions about me!

Aeroflotgirl · 12/03/2018 12:51

In the 1980's my mum was teased by local kids for her accent and the P word used as she looks similar to somebody from Indian or Pakistan. I don't think she gets that now. I think this has probably lessened her chances more than me. As I was born and raised in Great Britain, and have a white father, so my skin is lighter coloured.

Dipitydoda · 12/03/2018 13:00

No being listened to during childbirth and having lives put in danger is not the preserve of black women - 6 years of ptsd can attest to that, and quite frankly the insinuation that it’s worse for black women and making nhs it about race is insulting. Everything is made to be about race. Taking statistics )which can usually be used to high light any view point from the US to highlight race issues is stupid. Totally different culture)

BertrandRussell · 12/03/2018 13:05

Serena Williams was talking about America. In America, black women are 3 times more likely to die in childbirth or post partum than white women.

downthestrada · 12/03/2018 13:08

Dipitydoda And yet here we are discussing a Canadian campaign from the OP.

I thought the article I posted earlier, regarding Serena, was a good example of white privilege for people who say that it doesn't exist. It showed some stats but it looks like more research is needed. It's just an example.

Even if you want to discount any US articles or stats, that's fine. As long as it's not a way of totally discounting that white privilege exists. By the way, I agree that all women have trouble being listened to during child birth but that doesn't mean that some women may face more barriers in the same situation. It could be disabled women, for example.

BertrandRussell · 12/03/2018 13:14

A very quick check suggests that white women are significantly less likely to die in childbirth or postnatally than black women in the UK too. The figures look very similar to the US ones.

Areyousureaboutthat · 12/03/2018 21:28

Is that within the same hospitals? The stats are only significant if there are no other influential factors.

wheekwheekpiggiefeet · 13/03/2018 06:02

What MrsBrightSide said. Yes. It is just creating more division. I hate identity politics for this reason. It does nothing to solve real racism, sexism, disabilism etc

wheekwheekpiggiefeet · 13/03/2018 06:05

User I have some Jewish descent from my father but look more Celt (mother Scottish and English) so I get the opposite "you're Jewish??" said in tones of disbelief.

wheekwheekpiggiefeet · 13/03/2018 06:12

hamsterspyjamas Plenty of Irish travellers where I live and they get a hard time, sadly.

Just to clarify regarding an earlier post, I do believe white privelege does exist and racism against blacks and asians (and other white groups such as Irish, Jews and East Europeans) is a real problem. BUT I think this very real problem has been hijacked by the Identity Politics movement and therefore the definition of actual racism appears to have been watered down. eg- The IP brigade is focusing on non-issues eg making a big deal of what jewellery and hairstyles white people should not be allowed to wear so as not to offend black people etc. I think this does a disservice to actual victims of racism.

toomanyweeds · 13/03/2018 06:38

wheekwheekpiggiefeet Is that within the same hospitals? The stats are only significant if there are no other influential factors.

Not really - whether the reason lies within hospitals or elsewhere in society it's still "significant" just in a different way.

I'm inclined to agree with your last post to a certain extent, I do think the whole hairstyle thing etc gets a bit silly and distracting sometimes. But I guess I think that actual problem is wider that just straight forward "racism" also if that makes any sense at all.

wheekwheekpiggiefeet · 13/03/2018 07:16

toomanyweeds I think it is complex, yes.

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