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Friend on benefits and holidays

204 replies

Happybunny1994 · 04/03/2018 19:47

Not really a friend but someone I know is on benefits. She got one child with her partner and works part time. On a recent night out she mentioned holidays said that she was planning on going to Mexico this year and maybe spain. she then was moaning that her benefits have been cut and will struggle to pay her rent. She’s been on holiday 3 times last year all paid for buy herself to far flung expensive places. I was slightly drunk and mentioned that if she was able to go on holiday and pay her rent previously maybe she could not go on holiday and use that money to pay her rent. She got all defensive saying that she dosnt use the benefits to pay for her holidays. That she uses her wages to pay for them and did I think she shouldn’t be entitled to holidays. She also buys a lot of nice clothes all the time expensive nights out. I know I shouldn’t of said anything but I spent years not being able to afford a holiday while on minimum wage so maybe a little resentful

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Haffiana · 04/03/2018 21:06

Amazing how envy destroys people's ability to think logically.

sirlee66 · 04/03/2018 21:11

Forgive me if I'm wrong but I genuinely thought that most benefits were there as a fail safe if you fall on hard times. E.g. not perminant. (Not talking about disability allowance etc)

So if she is earning... surely that money is spent first on bills, rent, food... You know the stuff we all need to pay to live... and the benefits top up anything that's missing? There shouldn't be enough left over to jet of to Mexico?

anneoneill · 04/03/2018 21:14

You don’t know and you have no right to judge.

You do have a right to read the fucking thread though. The comment in question wasn't just doubting the "single parent takes holiday to mexico", it was casting specific doubts on a post claiming "single parent who refuses to work takes holiday to mexico" and as such is completely unrelated to your case where you do work.

Life must be difficult with your levels of paranoia and needless offence. Give yourself a break, ohreallyohreallyoh.

Audreyhelp · 04/03/2018 21:15

She may be getting lots of maintenance from the father of the child.
At least she is working .

ohreallyohreallyoh · 04/03/2018 21:17

Life must be difficult with your levels of paranoia and needless
offence

My comment was to Oswin. It is fucking tiring being told you’re the poor person all of the time.

Lovemusic33 · 04/03/2018 21:17

Chances are she can’t afford the holiday and is getting in to debt? I have known so many people do this, bragging about new cars, nice clothes and expensive holidays, a year later and they have debt collectors knocking their door and are struggling to feed their kids.

I wouldn’t be annoyed OP, chances are this will come back and bite her in the bum.

I get some benifits and I can’t afford expensive holidays, I do go on holiday though but in the uk when I find a bargain. No way could I afford Mexico without getting in to debt.

ghostyslovesheets · 04/03/2018 21:17

oh look - OP post goady shittery then fucks off and watches from a safe distance shocker Hmm

SpiceRack · 04/03/2018 21:21

daily fail

Pointlessfacts · 04/03/2018 21:22

I'm only affording a holiday because I put it on a credit card.....the other chunk of it was on another credit card.

I afforded it solely because I borrowed it!

She's not paying for it from benefits, she's paying it from credit.

People on benefits aren't scroungers, like most think

anneoneill · 04/03/2018 21:25

My comment was to Oswin. It is fucking tiring being told you’re the poor person all of the time.

Yes, and Oswin's comment was in response to:

I have a friend who doesn’t work through choice and has openly admitted she won’t work until her child is 5 because life is easier in benefits. She’s having 10 days all inclusive in Mexico while I work my bum off doing 2 jobs and can just about afford a few nights in the new forest.

Nothing like you're situation. Well done on not being poor?

anneoneill · 04/03/2018 21:25

oh shit, your not you're

TheFirstMrsDV · 04/03/2018 21:25

BUT WHAT BENEFITS IS SHE CLAIMING OP?

As you seem to be hard of reading.

This is nonsense.

The comment from the poster who thinks she is hard up because someone else is paying out thousands for her extension gave me a much needed laugh.

So this thread is not completely pointless.

TroubledLitchen · 04/03/2018 21:26

Don’t waste your energy being jealous or even giving a second thought to this. She sounds financially irresponsible but it’s her bank balance funeral. Being on benefits is by no means something to envy, even if she is off to Mexico.

SpiceRack · 04/03/2018 21:26

only had an account since tuesday...

Eltonjohnssyrup · 04/03/2018 21:27

What a load of tripe. Benefits have been cut and frozen over the last few years while living costs have spiralled. The amount of benefits that one family could receive as a maximum when they had no other income wouldn’t be enough to pay for three long haul holidays in a year even if they spent no other money on feeding and clothing themselves or energy to cook, wash, heat and eat.

It’s pretty basic maths to work out that the entire premise of this thread is pretty much impossible.

HappyFeet1212 · 04/03/2018 21:28

I smell Daily Mail too.

darkriver198868 · 04/03/2018 21:30

It sounds like a budgetting problem to me. Not a benefit problem. I am on benefits and havent had a holiday in several years. Thats even with children as I couldnt afford it.

allthegoodnameshadgone · 04/03/2018 21:30

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

anneoneill · 04/03/2018 21:31

I don't see why people are jumping to assume the daily mail. There are plenty of nasty shits who despise people "below them" on benefits" who would happily be goady fuckers on their own time, doesn't have to be a journalist.

TheFirstMrsDV · 04/03/2018 21:32

It’s pretty basic maths to work out that the entire premise of this thread is pretty much impossible

It is, but only if you want to.
Its clear that there are lot of posters who don't want to work it out and much prefer to believe an obvious GF.
So many of them appear to doing ok for themselves too.

I find that those of us who are just getting by tend not to gaf about other people catching a break now and again.

Weird how bitter people with quite enough can be.

MrsDilber · 04/03/2018 21:34

Yanbu. It's wrong.

starlightafar · 04/03/2018 21:36

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Eltonjohnssyrup · 04/03/2018 21:37

The benefit cap is £23,000 for a family in Greater London.

www.gov.uk/benefit-cap/benefit-cap-amounts

The only possible exception to that is disabilities or maintenance payments. If it’s disabilities it will barely cover any adjustments the person needs (and in some cases won’t even cover that). If a woman is lucky enough to have maintenance payments which cover that sort of lifestyle (which is vanishingly rare) she’s still doing nothing wrong. We’re fortunate enough to have a system which means women aren’t dependent on a man feeling like paying his maintenance that month to make sure she and her children are fed and sheltered.

TheFirstMrsDV · 04/03/2018 21:38

Agree totally with sirlee66 it shouldn't be a lifestyle choice, the fact it is means the system is flawed

Let me tell you how the system is flawed.
My OH was dx with MS about 16 years ago.
Up until the autumn he was still clinging on to work. Despite needed a power scooter to get about and having to rest all day so he could do four hours work in the evening and being in constant, untreatable pain

He can no longer work. He isn't 50 yet but has been in employment since he was 16 including fighting in an actual war and serving as a paramedic.

How easy do you think it is for him to get benefits?
Do you want to have a little guess?

Go on. Explain to me how much of a fucking lifestyle choice the shitty life is.
Because don't forget, I am now his carer so any hope of me working full time for a decent wage is now fucked.

FFS.

gluteustothemaximus · 04/03/2018 21:39

No need to feel resentful OP.

Just get yourself on benefits, and get your 3 foreign holidays a year.

Simples Wink