Girl ordering beer on first date

[PollyMolly1234]

What are your thoughts about this?

Thing is, I have found that the type of man who thinks a woman should be 'ladylike,' (drink tiny glasses of wine, wear skirts and have long hair, not swear, not fart, not talk back etc,) also expect the same woman to go dutch on dates, pay half towards everything, and bring as much money into the household as he does... Whilst still doing all the 'wifework' in the house and family, including childcare, and housework etc.... while he gets on with his usually very expensive time consuming hobbies and fucks off out with his mates whenever it suits him...)

Nothing wrong with a woman paying their share, but don't expect her to be the kind of subservient, demure woman you want her to be if you insist she pays her way, and should be equal to you in paying for everything...

women who "get the pints in" are often the ones staggering about in the streets vomiting later

For a start, this is a load of shit. And also, are you seriously saying MEN never do this?

Bore off.

1ndigo You can drink whatever you like. You are also perfectly entitled to start spouting your (ill-informed, when it comes to international drinking cultures) opinions. It makes you sound like a twat, though - and I'm then perfectly entitled to tell you this.

I agree with your assessment of the type of man who'd be appalled by his date drinking a pint, Tippz.

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Actually, I've just been reminded of the time we went out for a meal with my brother and SIL, and my brother's cocktail came with a small ornate mirror. Apparently to admire himself in whilst he drank it.

I think the poster who wrote An attractive drink though can be a nice extension of your outfit would definitely have approved.

However we all laughed because it was ridiculous.

Was it called a narcissus or something like that, Scrambled? Never heard of a mirror chaser with a cocktail

I used to order a pint of beer way back in the early 80s, people would raise an eyebrow but quite frankly it's a non-issue.

If a man wouldn't want me ordering a pint then he wasn't the type for me,

@1ndig0 - sorry should I just fall in line with everyone else then? "Yes, OP order as many pints as you want." Or are we allowed to suggest something different, possibly, seeing as the question was posted?

Yes, OP should order as many of whatever as she wants. Not what her date, or anyone else, thinks she should have. That's our point. If anyone judges her for what she drinks then that's their problem, not hers

Tbh, I think it looks a bit rough and women who "get the pints in" are often the ones staggering about in the streets vomiting later.

At the micro pub I drink in there are quite a few of us ladies who drink pints. I’ve never seen a single one of us even appearing drunk (obviously we all know we couldn’t possibly drive or operate machinery) let alone vomiting in the street.

Last Saturday I had a couple of pints of real ale at around 4%abv. That is less alcohol than a more “feminine” woman who drinks a bottle of wine (yes I’ve been known to do that too).

I am from another country in Europe Margaret, where millions of British come on holiday every year and pile into the places where the beer is cheapest and they drink from breakfast time - men and women. Ok, they're on holiday, but even so.

There is a particular culture around beer in this country and it's evident abroad. When I came here as a student, people used to go crazy for the "£1 a pint Happy Hours" and yes, the idea of a good night, for men and women, was to drink cheap beer until you vomit.

No need to be aggressive. Of course, I realise the vast majority of beer-drinkers are not like this at all, but that stereotype does exist. You wouldn't drink 5 pints of water, I just wonder why beer is different?

If i went on a date with a man who ordered a beer I’d be put off. I don’t want a man with a revolting beer belly!

Couldn't you just lift up his shirt, pat him on the belly, and say 'we don't want this getting porkie, do we?'.

I dont drink white wine or spirits really so I would definitely order a bottle of beer. If he had a problem with this, we would have very little in common so Id be glad for us to go our separate ways. Im also glad i dont drink "ladylike" glasses of white wine as ive seen far, far more women fucked up on wine that on beer. The peiple i know who struggle to lose weight are also "cheeky vino" types, including 3 women I know who are well into obesity. I also know of a couple of women with serious drink problems, one fully down the road of alcoholism and receiving treatment for it, bit of whom started one wine o clock when the kids were luttle, which quickly developed into 3/4 bottles a night. Maybe ask him how ladylike he thinks it is being arrested, covered in vomit, and having your kids taken away by the police, as hapenned to a former friend of mine.

Why are you caring what he thinks about you on a first date?

Be yourself.

“Should I order a beer on a first date”
Said NO MAN EVER

Why shouldn't you have a pint or two...!?

Last Saturday I had a couple of pints of real ale at around 4%abv. That is less alcohol than a more “feminine” woman who drinks a bottle of wine (yes I’ve been known to do that too

Totally. I don't get how people can drink super sized glasses of wine these days and still stay standing. That would make me sick, (can't touch the stuff these days) not a few pints of craft beer or ale where the alcohol content is far lower.

I love wine but it's not something I'd drink on a night out. Far too easy to get hammered.

1999, mate's wife ordered a pint and a half in a pub in Edinburgh, and a regular said he wasn't having women ordering in his local. Barman said nothing, pulled the drinks, but when mate returned and it became clear the pint was for her, we all got chucked out.

I've only had the opposite; blokes expecting me to prove myself by drinking as much as them (at the time I could easily, and did), including some I had to schmooze at a conference when I was on meds, so asked for orange juice. "Come on, you have to have a proper drink, I'll get you a pint." OK, a pint of orange juice.
Warning: ten pints of orange juice feels worse than 10 of beer.

I still find that well-trained wsitstaff who put the bill in the middle of the table and don't presume to know which of us Dr X Surname is, still assume whisky is for DH and the rosé for me, when it should be the other way round.

Am I in a time warp?

Sorry to be a downer, we've all had a good laugh, but this is not really about wether you drink beer, or in what measure. Can we please just stop talking about these stupid stereotypes, women have come so far, let's not put that progress back all by ourselves, and for god's sake, don't pass those feelings onto your offspring! Interestingly, we would describe men as blokey, strong, independent, but when it comes to women we still want to portray ourselves as delicate, ladylike, wouldn't drink a pint. Isn't it funny that we say to someone who's had a baby boy, 'he's so strong, he's gonna be a big lad, independent, heartbreaker when he's older', yet to say that to those that have had girls would be an insult. Why the fuck would that be an insult...why would you not want a strong, independent female baby?? We are still bringing up subservient women, please stop. If you don't wanna drink beer don't, if you don't want to drink a pint, don't. But as a woman make sure you are doing damn well what you please and making your own choices (and not just for show), be strong, be independent, make sure your babies know that that is the way it should be. You will make their life a whole lot easier.

GiddyGardner I know what you say comes from a good place but I will certainly discourage my daughter from drinking pints of beer, as well as my son. I’m into healthy living and pints of beer don’t fit in with that. And yes, pints aren’t very elegant, and would probably put people off on a first date. That’s my prerogative.

AsolutelyCorking so long as you are also giving (or would give) the same message to your boys then fine!

But that is my point @AbsolutelyCorking, and you have clearly missed it, I am not encouraging anyone to drink pints, I am encouraging everyone to make their own choices regardless of gender. Please read my post again. I am encouraging independent thinking and not loading children with stereotypes.