I don't know how I feel about abortion anymore

[sirlee66]

I've always been very pro-choice. A woman's body. A woman's right to choose.

I'm currently 34 weeks pregnant with my first and now I think my thoughts are changing.

I believe the cut off is 24 weeks? There was a lovely lady on here the other day whose waters broke and she gave birth to a baby girl at 25 weeks! If a baby can survive that early... It just seems...wrong!

Maybe the cut off could be lowered. I started feeling flutters at about 15 weeks so maybe before then.

I don't know what the answer is. I still feel really strongly that ultimately, the mother should decide but I just can't get past babies surviving outside the womb at the same age as a baby that could be aborted.

Maybe it's just pregnancy hormones. I also can't stop think about the poor women who have to make that decision. It must be so awful and I just want to give them a big hug.

I guess my question is, AIBU to not really know how I feel about it?

Forced birthers really are the most awful people.

(especially ones who write in a stream of consciousness)

Bluepears the woman's body is affected by pregnancy. She has to gestate a baby for 9 months within her body and then go through childbirth, will all of the physical symptoms and risk factors involved. Of course it affects her bodily autonomy.

I'm strongly pro choice but wouldn't have an abortion myself unless there were compelling medical reasons. I'm not at all conflicted about that. My choice. Her choice. Both are ok.

'If that's what she wants then yes. The word "baby" is only ever an emotional value that many women assign. Legally and scientifically, it is a foetus until the point of birth.'
its illegal at 24 weeks and scientifically its both a fetus and a baby from conception to birth then it becomes just a baby evidence baby means a young child child means a young human a fetus is a human scientifically speaking.
and there is no uk law that uses the term fetus the abortion act uses the word child and so does the child destruction law.

Blue, how can you honestly say that someone being pregnant against their will doesn’t impact their bodily autonomy? Seriously?

The Abortion Act does use the term foetus. FFS.

Do you ever check anything before you claim it as fact?

That sort never do stitch. If a fact doesn't fit, they lie instead.

and there is no uk law that uses the term fetus the abortion act uses the word child and so does the child destruction law.

Blue, you know that’s not true, because I already pointed it out to you. Section 5 of the Abortion Act uses the word foetus multiple times. The Act only uses the word ‘child’ in a conditional sense of its existence after its birth.

Blue, how can you honestly say that someone being pregnant against their will doesn’t impact their bodily autonomy? Seriously? i didnt the poster lied and said a fetus was part of the mothers body its not

i didnt the poster lied and said a fetus was part of the mothers body its not

Oh for crying out loud! OK then, what exactly is it then, if it isn't a part of the woman's (she is only a mother if she chooses to be) body then just where exactly is it?

'Oh for crying out loud! OK then, what exactly is it then, if it isn't a part of the woman's (she is only a mother if she chooses to be) body then just where exactly is it?'

its in her body not part of her body only idiots do not understand the difference

If you could do us a diagram, that'd be great...

But you ARE the thread idiot, bluepears.

A forced birther idiot.

its in her body not part of her body only idiots do not understand the difference

Shit, I've been well and truly schooled

Bluepears have you seen the word foetus used several times in the Abortion Act now?

It's obviously a very difficult and sensitive subject but as someone who has had a late termination I am very very glad that I had the choice and the cut-off wasn't 8-12 weeks as a poster on one of the early pages suggested.

It was not a happy outcome for me and was due to terrible news at a 20 week scan (which ended up taking place later than 20 weeks due to a backlog at my local hospital) and I wish it hadn't happened and that instead I was still due to give birth in April.

However I am thankful that it saved me the heartache of what would have been undoubtedly a later loss that I would have just been waiting for - I cannot comprehend having to go through that agony.

I think the problem is that abortions/terminations simply cannot be generalised - one rule really doesn't fit all. As previous posters have pointed out there are so many different scenarios that can end up at that point, and each one surely has different considerations.

Blue, you said:

women have a right to bodily autonomy but its irrelevant as a fetus is not part of the mothers body.

You said the right to bodily autonomy was irrelevant.

That’s not another poster lying, that’s you saying that you don’t think a woman’s right to bodily autonomy is relevant in the case of pregnancy and its impact on the mother.

yes i was wrong

About what?

Just wanted to say I am so so sorry to the posters on here who have undergone a late termination.
Please don't hate yourself. There is nothing to be ashamed of at all. You did the right thing in terrible circumstances.

Jassy don't push it she said she was wrong what do you want? Blood?

Jassy don't push it she said she was wrong what do you want? Blood?

An idea of which thing she feels she was wrong about. There are a few contenders, and I don’t want to keep pushing on something where someone has admitted they are wrong.

But there are quite a few things, you see.