AIBU to think Child Maintenance is fair?

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Just that. Does anyone have any opposite views? Anyone feel they ask to much? Etc

Fabulous post Pounding.

Interesting and thanks Pounding

Men should have the same right

But the child is being punished you dimwit.

I think sex ed in schools should cover a lot more than the basics of sex. We should be warning boys that partners can and do lie so even in marriage they should be responsible for their own contraception. Maybe more also on what constitutes a stable relationship, some put no thought into planning a child or don't even know who the father is,

Then to cut down on children not being supported by parents we need to make it illegal to have a child and then not work at least 35 hours to support said child. The amount that have children with no intentions of supporting them is astounding. They see it as their right to have a child at the expense of others. It should be shameful not rewarded.

We also need to get rid of the mindset that women are suddenly rendered incapable of working once they have children. It's perfectly possible and millions do it. Whilst women opt out, we will never have equality in the workplace and salary wise.

So people who can't work wouldn't be 'allowed' to have kids without breaking the law? Seems fair

What do you suggest as punishment for people who have kids and don't work? A fine? Prison? Would you want their kids put into care?

How would those ideas be of any benefit to the children born into these circumstances?

We should be warning boys that partners can and do lie

the fuck? No, we should be telling boys that their reproductive health is THEIR responsibility!

Blooming heck, what a way to prepare youngsters for a relationship, not "take care of yourself, use protection, stay healthy", but "WOMEN LIE LIE LIE THE NASTY LIARS!"

And the rest of what you write? Bloody hell, why do you hate women?

The amount that have children with no intentions of supporting them is astounding. They see it as their right to have a child at the expense of others. It should be shameful not rewarded

What is the source of your information?

All the statistics from reliable sources that I have ever seen suggest that a) the majority of single parents work and b) the majority of single parents were once married or in long term partnerships.

Where are these ‘astounding’ stats you speak of?

Yellow hates SAHMs, anyone who works part time, anyone who claims any benefits, and women in general. They've been peddling this bile for years under various names, I don't understand why blatant misogyny isn't a bannable offence.

@Graphista very disingenuous twisting of my words; his mistake was to shag without a condom, risking his health. He didn't repeat that mistake. DSD, whilst not planned, was the least bad thing that could have arisen from said shagging, and is one of the sweetest girls you could wish to know, so please don't insult her.

It wasn't me called her a mistake - no word twisting was needed

Men are already protecting themselves in a way. By avoiding marriage at all costs so they can get out easily and pay minimum maintenance and have less disruption to their lives when they split with their partner.

Men are already protecting themselves in a way. By avoiding marriage at all costs so they can get out easily and pay minimum maintenance and have less disruption to their lives when they split with their ppartner

And why would they get married, really? Divorce usually leads to dramatic financial changes for the higher earning partner. These men already have all the benefits of a live-in rship with less risk if it goes wrong anyway. Someone who will give birth to their DC without assurances, live with them, and then even overlook their own surname when DC are born, and give them their DP's name instead of their own.
Of course marriage rates are down, it's a case of "Why buy the cow when you're getting the milk for free?" I think.

usernamealreadytaken did you say his daughter was 10?

yellow
I’ve pointed this out to you several times but you still don’t appear to get it,
Lone parents in work unless they are fairly high earners tend to cost the tax payer more than ones who are not in work.

A lone parent of 3 children working in a job that pays less than around £15 per hour is likely to be paying more in childcare than she is earning. And if tax credits are a factor the help he/she can get with that is limited to around £230 a week

@NeedsAsockamnesty - not that I can remember! She's 30

@NeedsAsockamnesty I've just looked back to the ten years reference - we had our tests ten years later (ten years after he had slept many times with DSD's mum without a condom, that being the referred to mistake, not as @Graphista would like to believe referring to DSD!), that's when we both decided we were in a serious relationship and wanted to stop wearing condoms.

Since the CSA changed the rules when it became CMS it is now very easy for self-employed NRP to manipulate their income so they only pay the minimum £7/wk for all the children. The select committee last year recommended that the grounds for appeal be reinstated but the government aren't going to implement it - they also said the charge of £20 should be scrapped and many other sensible suggestions. It is grossly unfair that many NRPs live in luxury and the RP and children struggle.

It was just as easy under the original CSA kesie.

Sorry user it sounded much like you were talking in the current time period like this was happening to you now. I apologise for the misunderstanding.