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Cocks and Vaginas

272 replies

ChaosAndPiss · 23/02/2018 22:33

AIBU to think we should just change toilets and changing rooms from male and female to just Cocks and Vaginas (or vulvas if you want)

No self identifying bollocks. If you have a dick you go in there. If you don't you go in there. Simple.

We can remove the lady in a dress picture and the man picture and just put pictures of genitals on the doors instead Grin

this is all said in a joking manner. Mostly.

OP posts:
gluteustothemaximus · 24/02/2018 00:11

Could I be fluid with my gender? Like, mostly I identify as a female. But sometimes I might wish to identify as a male so I can use their toilets.

There's always a massive bloody queue for the vulcans Grin

OkPedro · 24/02/2018 00:14

dinosaursandtea
I'm still waiting to hear/read this transphobia on MN...disagreeing with something doesn't make it transphobic or homophobic!
Also waiting to hear what being a woman or man feels like

bellasuewow · 24/02/2018 00:24

Self Id is transphobic, mysoginistic, homophobic and batshit. If in doubt, read into the issue.

DaisyDrip · 24/02/2018 00:26

Jaygee61: So someone who has had a total hysterectomy including the cervix would have to go in XY then.

EH? A woman can lose all primary and secondary sex characteristics but she will still have xx chromosomes. If you are born xx you die xx there is nothing science can do to change that.

Jaygee61 · 24/02/2018 00:27

OkPedro, I know I don’t feel I’m really a man. I’m happy in my female body. Is that enough for you?

Toadinthehole · 24/02/2018 00:34

I think the reason this idea is offending some is because some trans people might not want to publicly disclose what their genitals are, and not should they be made to do so

Perhaps so, but it's a silly concern. In society today we all publicly disclose what our genitals are by our observable appearance. We just don't show the actual genitals (except on some German beaches).

OkPedro · 24/02/2018 00:37

Say what jaygee Confused
You know you don't feel like you're really a man? But you're happy with your female body.. righto

Dljlr · 24/02/2018 00:49

To the person who wants to keep women's toilets reserved for people with vaginas that can be used to deliver babies through, and which need to be smear tested every so often.

I've had a hysterectomy. Where do I pee?

NotUmbongoUnchained · 24/02/2018 00:58

Unless you have the fanny police stood at the door checking everyone as they go in, this wouldn’t make any difference.
You have no idea what’s coming out of the pants in the cubicle next to you.

OkPedro · 24/02/2018 00:59

Is a woman's vagina,vulva and urethra removed during a hysterectomy?
reserved for women with vagina's that can be used to deliver babies
Isn't the same as saying only women who have delivered babies and can still deliver babies

Tinkofhousepan · 24/02/2018 01:30

I think it's a hilarious idea. However I'm sure there would be people objecting to it on the grounds that it's vulgar/don't want their kids seeing dicks and foofoos everywhere 'innocence ruined etc' would never even think of calling it.. what was the word entropynow used.. trans-hating. Surely it is pro trans? As now they can use the toilet with the genitals they currently have rather than the ones they were born with? Makes it all much simpler IMO. For the transitioning people that haven't had the op yet, we can just have a unisex toilet. The picture for that could be a big question mark or this... (see attached pic.. don't mean to offend anyone by it but 1)pic is funny and 2) this whole trans thing is getting soooooo boring.. be a man or a woman who cares. As long as youre happy and not trying to shove gender identity etc down my throat then crack On!). I saw a post on here the other day where someone was outraged that a man/trans woman could shower in the same space as their kids. Go back 20 years and this was the norm!

Cocks and Vaginas
Valentinesfart · 24/02/2018 01:33

Oh fuck off. The transphobia on this site is vile.

Transmen are more than welcome in the vagina door.

What the fuck is wrong with people it is really telling that people only think of transwomen and worry about their risk in toilets. The ones with actual vaginas can just take their chances in the men's room and the male prisons. That will go swimmingly because men always ask about your gender identity before they assault you.

Valentinesfart · 24/02/2018 01:34

Isn't the same as saying only women who have delivered babies and can still deliver babies

Nope, and you know that. Despite all the mental gymnastics, you know no one thinks that.

Valentinesfart · 24/02/2018 01:36

So someone who has had a total hysterectomy including the cervix would have to go in XY then.

No, see and you've just made our point.

Cutting genitals off doesn't change your sex. You're still the same sex you were born. Hysterectomies, dickectomies whatever..

Valentinesfart · 24/02/2018 01:36

Why do people think there are urinals in men's toilets?

TheGoalIsToStayOutOfTheHole · 24/02/2018 01:42

This has all started because of the silly doors with a picture of someone in a skirt on the womens, and trousers on the mens hasn't it..

You would think that adults would be able to use the area thats clearly for their own sex. Given no area is segregated on 'gender' or clothing sense.

Anyway, no matter what signage there is, there will be transactivists there to piss on our heads and tell us it is raining. Like is we mass abandoned the word woman..they would just move on to colonize whichever word us adult human females used to describe ourselves.

OkPedro · 24/02/2018 01:42

I think I'm on your side valentine ?
I agree that you are still a woman even if you've never been pregnant or given birth.. if you have had a mastectomy,hysterectomy or been though the menopause you are still a woman

OldGuard · 24/02/2018 01:47

Saw this in Spain
Very practical

VladmirsPoutine · 24/02/2018 01:49

But this is how it has been for a long time. Confused

The issue now is with someone with a cock feeling entitled to use the toilets/changing rooms of those with vaginas. That is the problem.

notangelinajolie · 24/02/2018 01:53

Thinking women with vaginas should should used the men's toilets. And women and men with willy's should use the women's. That should sort it.

PositivelyPERF · 24/02/2018 01:58

Jaygee61: So someone who has had a total hysterectomy including the cervix would have to go in XY then.

And with that comment you’ve just proven that you really don’t have the intelligence to discuss self ID and the issues that arise with it. 🤣

Valentinesfart · 24/02/2018 01:58

I read "Isn't that the same as saying only women who have delivered babies and can still deliver babies"

Blush Sorry pedro. I'll get my PJs and fuck off to bed as I'm clearly not seeing straight.

MrsDilber · 24/02/2018 02:02

A popular seaside town has mixed loos in the carpark and it is horrendously set out.

Mixed cubicles, urinal at the end - you just go in and see men standing up pissing. I've heard many a mother moan about it as their little girls have to witness it too.

I'm a big girl, don't care, but if I had little kids, I'd be none too happy.

This is the future my friends and it's grim.

Notavictimbutasurvivor · 24/02/2018 02:05

Sick of this "transphobic" bullshit!
I was raped repeatedly now I have a fear of most men. I can't even hug my father or brothers without feeling freaked out.

If you have a penis stay out of women's bathrooms. I would be terrified if I came across a man in the ladies toilets and I will scream my head off and probably wet myself with fright.

OkPedro · 24/02/2018 02:06

No worries valentine I had a feeling you misread what i wrote
Maybe the wine I'm drinking is muddling my posts Grin

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