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I read on the web that someone asked for a new conspiracy thread...

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beluga425 · 20/02/2018 21:10

Here it is!!!

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FairiesVsPixies · 24/02/2018 12:36

Absolutely no patronisation meant! ‘Light bedtime reading’ is a common term for ‘Jesus I have to plough through this sodding paper written in awful dense academic prose’ no?

It's ok, we all know what you meant - some people get offended at anything.
I did try and have a read of it but just couldn't take it in and I thought I was quite bright Confused

lalalalyra · 24/02/2018 12:56

he coroner pronouncing all 20 children and 6 adults dead two hours after entering the school - would they have not been taken to a hospital for an autopsy before this declaration was made? These are just questions that I can't see any logistical answer for.

I'm surprised it took him/her two hours, and assume that's probably because of the emotion/horror.

The paramedics or whoever were first on site would have checked for signs of life. By the time the coroner arrived it would be very obvious who was dead and who wasn't.

Deschain · 24/02/2018 13:07

I read a good one,but haven't got through the previous thread,so apologies if I'm repeating,. Aleister Crowley,the satanist/black magician was well known for practicing sex magic. Introduced by a mutual friend,it's thought that he had ritual sex with a woman called Barbara Pierce,who became pregnant by Crowley. This woman had the child,who grew up to marry.. drum roll ..George Bush Snr. Yes,Barbara Bush is Crowleys daughter,making GW Bush the grandson of 'the wickedest man in the world'. Would explain a lot!

beluga425 · 24/02/2018 13:33

Deschain that is rather creepy.

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QueenOfTheAndals · 24/02/2018 13:42

But possibly also not true!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Pierce

Deschain · 24/02/2018 13:52

Well,Queen,they would say that,wouldn't they. Wink Wiki is obviously part of the conspiracy!

beluga425 · 24/02/2018 14:05

Regarding the Sandy Hook 'conspiracy'. Apart from the fact that I have such a lot of sympathy for the relatives who have been hounded and told they are actors and their children didn't exist. I don't see why anyone would go to the bother of staging a mass shooting. There are websites that actually say there wasn't even a school there.

The people who believe this think it is all part of a plot to remove guns from the general populace and launch a deadly depopulation attack on the citizens who will then not be able to retaliate. I have seen a few Facebook posts from pretty ordinary relatives in the US who have said as much.

The thing is, if you are the evil state, why not just send a trained shooter in to kill everyone, then plant a gun on a teen and make it look as though they had turned the gun on themselves?

That is if you believe that it is fake at all.

Personally, I just think there's a tragic crisis in teen mental health in the US (and to a lesser degree here in the UK, but we're not awash with guns).

I think the same goes for lots of the false flag claims, they are just too elaborate. Why employ actors? Why not just plant a bomb/shoot/stab/drive a van or truck?

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DontGoIntoTheLongGrass · 24/02/2018 14:26

My only theory is here in UK the council's do not have enough storage for traffic cones. Therefore after finishing roadworks they put the cones in another random places to make it look like work is going on but workmen are never there and no work seems to happen. I think the council saves money by skimping on storage and inconveniencing all drivers. That is all. 😁

BeyondTerfyCassandra · 24/02/2018 14:27

False flags near enough almost read as nonsense to me. I could understand a government going the other way and hiding the whole thing, or yes (if rather paranoid), the idea that they commit it and plant the weapon on a patsy. But actors? Really? 🙄

BeyondTerfyCassandra · 24/02/2018 14:28

Having been attacked by cones in high winds, I reckon you’re onto something there, don’t!

beluga425 · 24/02/2018 14:39

stim.com/Stim-x/0796July/Phenom/coneindex.html

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Afternooncatnap · 24/02/2018 16:30

DontGoIntoTheLongGrass
I've been saying that about cones for ages. People think I'm being stupid.

What I don't understand about thee sandy Hook conspiracy is, guns wern't made illegal due to it. They didn't even try to change the law. And there are loads of real school shootings to use to push an anti gun agenda, so why bother setting up a fake one.

Nelumbo · 24/02/2018 16:31

I've just watched a video on the Avril Lavigne conspiracy, I used to be a fan of hers and didn't even know about this....seems legit Hmm

ItsNachoCheese · 24/02/2018 16:32

Placemarking

LouiseBrooks · 24/02/2018 17:15

The people who believe this think it is all part of a plot to remove guns from the general populace and launch a deadly depopulation attack on the citizens who will then not be able to retaliate

Bearing in mind that the govt has all sorts of massive weapons, both conventional and nuclear, they could do this anyway - in a heartbeat - should they choose to. Those with guns wouldn't have a chance against drones, bombers etc.

BalloonSlayer · 24/02/2018 17:23

I remember someone telling me about Jimmy Savile and mortuary activites about 35 years ago. So LONG before the age of the internet. What did I think? I thought it was disgusting that people should spread such terrible rumours about someone who did so much good work for charity etc, and dismissed it from my mind as revolting, nasty gossip.

Just as well I was not in a position of authority of authority then!

beluga425 · 24/02/2018 18:06

LouiseBrooks I know!!! I was trying to point exactly this out to someone on another site yesterday to no avail. It's like people decide on a crazy set of 'facts' then do all they can to fit conspiracies to match them.

Having said that, there have been bizarre conspiracies that have turned out to be true.

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TabbyMack · 24/02/2018 18:22

there have been bizarre conspiracies that turned out to be true

Like what?

QueenOfTheAndals · 24/02/2018 18:32

I didn't grow up in the UK so I didn't know much about Jimmy Savile but when it all came out it didn't really surprise me, as I kind of just assumed he was a perve. How any parent could've let their kid go on Jim'll Fix It is besides me. The guy just screamed nonce. In fact he wrote in his autobiography about all the underage girls he'd shagged so he was basically hiding in plan sight.

beluga425 · 24/02/2018 18:46

Watergate

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beluga425 · 24/02/2018 18:54

There are loads though. Most I can think of involve governments getting up to naughty stuff/ spying on people/ lying about things/ experimenting on soldiers/ infecting people etc.

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Backscratchesforever · 24/02/2018 19:02

I think “false flag attacks” if real, would be to segregate and scare people.
Also there is evidence to suggest they use these events to hide other issues. It has been said 9/11 covered up the knowledge of billions of dollars missing from US budget.

I saw on YT a video that said Las Vegas shooting was in response to Trump shutting down the money laundering system with Saudi ARabia. There is video evidence of a SA Prince being arrested and taken out of the hotel. He was later charged for something else.

My facts may not be 100% it’s been a while since I watched it sorry

Backscratchesforever · 24/02/2018 19:03

Montauk project is interesting, time travel etc

Backscratchesforever · 24/02/2018 19:14

I just remembered another,

Watch the Gotthard tunnel opening ceremony in Switzerland. Creepy AF! Demons, slaves, paganism, death, sex slaves, a demon goat mounting a lamb!

Only the highest elitists were invited, and if that satanic stuff is what they are into I’m so glad I’m poor lol!

KochabRising · 24/02/2018 19:47

I have a thought about the LA shooting. I have no evidence for this and I have no idea if it’s right, it just popped into my head at the time

He did it for fun, no ideology involved and there are people who will arrange the logistics of this kind of horror for money.

If he’d wanted to be political there would have been a message. There wasn’t. He simply wanted to kill an awful lot of people. Someone seems to have helped him with the set up. Sometimes evil is that banal.

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