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I read on the web that someone asked for a new conspiracy thread...

241 replies

beluga425 · 20/02/2018 21:10

Here it is!!!

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Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 23/02/2018 10:41

I don’t really believe this either because:

A) why would the other actors have been allowed to see all this for a start?

B) she’s supposed to have been a relatively big name by then? Why would they risk her being traumatised and not coming back or working anywhere else? It’s one thing to attack a grown woman who wants to be in movies (horrible obviously), but children could be truly disturbed, refuse to work, and of course tell their parents and anyone else.

The thing about what Feldman said is that they were drugged and coerced, and his mother just didn’t care. It makes sense like that, but I think this sounds a bit far fetched.

Still, what kind of creep makes this up?

louise5754 · 23/02/2018 11:20

What is the Heather ORouke one please?

Qvar · 23/02/2018 11:28

I want to know what happened to Princess Charlene of Monaco.

She had her passport taken off her to prevent her leaving her husband after one of his repeated affairs. She was removed to the palace and next time she was seen, looked heavily sedated.

I would pay good money to get that woman in an unbugged room with a pot of tea and a comfy chair. I'd like to know what happened, and I truly believe something DID happen.

BeyondTerfyCassandra · 23/02/2018 11:30

Surprised that my post is still there Shock

I'd honestly expected it to go within about 20mins!

Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 23/02/2018 11:34

louise, it’s basically that rather than dying of sepsis due to a misdiagnosed bowel condition she had suffered from for years, she actually died due to physical trauma of being sexually assaulted by members of a Hollywood studio child sex abuse ring. For this to be true you’d have to believe the hospital staff, coroner etc covered for them. I don’t think it adds up.

Qvar · 23/02/2018 11:37

I don't think Heather O'rourke was assaulted to death - she was too valuable. I'm not saying it couldn't have happened, I'm saying they'd have used a much, much cheaper child [sad

louise5754 · 23/02/2018 11:47

Any thoughts on the jonbenet death? Did they every find anyone?

Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 23/02/2018 12:19

louise, I don’t know that much about it but a recent docu concluded it was an accidental death caused by her big brother (who was 9 I think?) and the parents were covering for him. I really don’t know enough about it to offer an opinion though.

BeyondTerfyCassandra · 23/02/2018 12:29

Having looked into it in a lot of depth, I agree with the documentary's theory.

Commuterface · 23/02/2018 12:38

I'm not saying I think Sandy Hook was a hoax or a conspiracy - I would hate to think that a government could do such a thing but I do think there are some very odd occurances surrounding it. For example how a number of homes in Sandy Hook were paid off on Christmas Day in 2009 (notaries and banks don't work on Christmas Day so how was this processed?). The photo of the woman who was killed in the Sandy Hook massacre and then the exact same photo of the same woman was used for a woman killed in the Boston bombing. The face that the school was totally bulldozed to the ground and all of the families leaving the area a short time later (of course this is possible but a little unlikely). The coroner pronouncing all 20 children and 6 adults dead two hours after entering the school - would they have not been taken to a hospital for an autopsy before this declaration was made? These are just questions that I can't see any logistical answer for.

BeyondTerfyCassandra · 23/02/2018 12:44

You have to be declared dead before an autopsy!!! Shock

Commuterface · 23/02/2018 12:51

Ok. Thanks for that. But a coronor can’t possibly declare 26 people dead in the space of 2 hours unless there is nothing but fragments of the body left - which there wouldn’t have been. Why weren’t they taken to a hospital to be declared dead?

Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 23/02/2018 12:54

I don’t understand why they couldn’t declare them dead on the spot?

Ffsnothingworks · 23/02/2018 13:01

Yes, I think it would be possible to tell if 20 children weren’t alive anymore. It beggars belief that people question the reality of this tragedy, and are playing into disgusting individuals hands by perpetuating the myth.

Anyway, I find Rendlesham quite fascinating, after one of my dc learnt about it at school.

BeyondTerfyCassandra · 23/02/2018 13:01

Sometimes it's quite obvious that someone is dead, even without them being in little pieces. I assume that is the case there, though I'm not going to look into it in detail for obvious reasons.

tafftum · 23/02/2018 13:03

I have nothing to add but I love these threads!

Commuterface · 23/02/2018 13:06

I have already said that I’m not prepared to consider Sandy Hook as a hoax or a conspiracy but why shouldn’t people question the abnormalities around it? Are we so scared of being accused of being inhuman or a disgusting individual just because we ask questions when things don’t seem right? Taking the medical examiner out of the equation, we are still left with unanswered questions.

LouiseBrooks · 23/02/2018 13:17

I'm not saying I think Sandy Hook was a hoax or a conspiracy

Then proceeds to list conspiracy theories about the event!

Here's some common sense responses.

a) a number of homes in Sandy Hook were paid off on Christmas Day in 2009 -3 years before the event? Talk about forward planning! But more importantly, what is the source for this?

  1. The photo of the woman who was killed in the Sandy Hook massacre and then the exact same photo of the same woman was used for a woman killed in the Boston bombing - this has been debunked.

  2. The face that the school was totally bulldozed to the ground - plenty of places where terrible things occurred are bulldozed.

  3. all of the families leaving the area a short time later this is rubbish,. Some may have left but they didn't ALL leave.

  4. The coroner pronouncing all 20 children and 6 adults dead two hours after entering the school pretty obvious they were dead and you think this has never happened at other mass deaths?

I have already said that I’m not prepared to consider Sandy Hook as a hoax or a conspiracy

So why repeat these things which are an insult to the families of the dead?

sashh · 23/02/2018 13:54

he coroner pronouncing all 20 children and 6 adults dead two hours after entering the school - would they have not been taken to a hospital for an autopsy before this declaration was made? These are just questions that I can't see any logistical answer for.

Autopsies are not necessarily carried out in hospital, they are also carried out in a mortuary.

I'm not sure any of the Sandy Hook victims would have had one (not sure on US law) as the cause of death was well known.

QueenOfTheAndals · 23/02/2018 14:14

Oh, speaking of illegitimate children. Apparently Fidel Castro is Justin Tremudu's dad. They look creepily alike!

Margaret Trudeau was known for having a few flings but I doubt El Commandante was one of them! Incidentally a Canadian friend swears Trudeau Sr was gay but married her late in life because she was his best friend's daughter and had known her since she was a child.

SamanthaBrique · 23/02/2018 16:02

I've not googled Sandy Hook conspiracies but are people claiming it didn't happen or the kids didn't die? Or that it was some sort of sacrifice to a cult? On second thoughts, best to just leave it I think.

The Prince Andrew/Jeffrey Epstein stories died a death didn't they? Could be that Andrew was innocent but still, why would he continue to associate with a convicted sex abuser? There were pictures of them together even after Epstein was released from prison.

Andylion · 23/02/2018 16:32

Incidentally a Canadian friend swears Trudeau Sr was gay but married her late in life because she was his best friend's daughter and had known her since she was a child.

PET, as we used to call him over here in Canada, was a bit of a playboy before he married.

Andylion · 23/02/2018 16:34

what is the source for this?^

That's the problem with most conspiracies. Someone makes something up, posts it as fact, and it's believed and repeated.

Weedsnseeds1 · 23/02/2018 16:35

People did know about Jimmy Savile. I knew about him in primary school, via a kid who's Dad worked at a psychiatric unit which was visited by JS on occasion.
His Dad also alluded to the mortuary activities. Not sure if this was at Stoke Mandeville or the unit where he worked ( different part of the country).
This was 40 years ago.
I don't know why nobody did anything, but us kids used to discuss it as something to scare ourselves with, like ghost stories, or the bogeyman. Something you half believe and half think must be made up.
Also knew about Gary Glitter, he used to live in the same town I went to secondary school in and would cycle through our village with his underage girl friend ( on those fold away bicycles!). I knew, everyone knew, nobody seemed bothered in the slightest, including the girls parents ( and everybody else's parents come to that).
It wasn't hidden away at all, it was just accepted and normalised for some reason.
It's hard to explain, but nobody batted an eyelid.

Weedsnseeds1 · 23/02/2018 16:39

I don't mean we were discussing necrophilia at 9 or 10 by the way, more " he likes dead people, takes them to the morgue and sits with them in the dark" type comments.