Which conspiracy theories do you believe?

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Which theories, dismissed by many as conspiracy theories, do you regard as the truth?

*What, him?! shock

Yeah, that would certainly be shocking*

Yes, if it's true I can't see it coming out

Which leads to my own theory I've been considering lately - all these Hollywood predators are being exposed as a diversion to protect an even worse problem which is pervasive in the industry and where the money and power really is - child abuse

I love this thread. I have done nothing today because I have been googling all of these theories. Dp is worried about me but I’m more worried that I’m about to be arrested and questioned! ‘I was only interested because I saw it on Mumsnet’.

I don’t believe for a second that it’s true Michael Jackson is still alive, but that James Brown and Michael Jackson photo mentioned above is creepy.

Littlechocola
Alexa is calling the FBI/CIA/CID/Lizard men/Queen/Paul McCartney right now!

Cupofcake this is why I won’t let Alexa in my house. It’s quite likely that my dog is a government spy. He’s really sneaky.

There's an interesting series in BBC 4 iPlayer just now about Elizabeth Haysom and Jens Soering. Not a conspiracy but a miscarriage of justice for the latter whilst both are still incarcerated for a crime committed 33 years ago.

Just, is your no. 3 others' no. 44 by any chance?

"Others' no. 44 by chance?" - I do not know what you mean? Number 44 ??

Possibly the most bizarre internet rabbit hole I've fallen down:
numerologysecrets.net/master-number-44/

Googled Marconi now.

I used to work with a big company along sort of similar lines. It went through a patch of very nasty accidents, both inside the company premises, for employees outside (including an exec dying in a very well known plane crash), and for members of the public who were using the product I googled it recently, and apparently I'm the only person on the whole internet who noticed it!!!

It's precisely because of the holocaust, the abuse in care homes in Ireland, the missing children in Spain, the mysterious deaths of people like Diana and David Kelly, invasions etc that so many find the conspiracy theories likely, not just plausible. Everybody knows as Leonard Cohen sings. There have been concerted attempts to enslave many around the world. We saw who became otherwise unaccountably rich after all these activities whilst many of our own communities were shred to tatters. They would still put us in labour camps in a heartbeat methinks.

Re. Making A Murderer - if Avery didn't do it, who did? Like a lot of conspiracy theories mentioned here, it would have been just so labour intensive to frame him. The documentary actually left out quite a few significant facts/pieces of evidence. The full court transcripts are available online.

Haven’t read the whole thread so don’t know if it’s been brought up by a fellow south walian but the Clydach Murders It’s so worth looking up if you’re interested in coverups etc. There’s been a book written about it fairly recently too that makes for shocking reading.

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It hasn’t been brought up no. I’m a fellow South Walian but was quite young when it happened, remember it being in the news, could you elaborate?

I heard allegations that Weinstein was only exposed because he had pissed off someone very powerful in the film industry.

"Crunchymint* I heard it was because he was a democrat.

The Flixborough one is my most recent interest

Can I have another clue for the famous abuser? I didn't get the ambling clue.

Re, Steve Avery: the ex boyfriend was really dodgy, I think.

Alis a family of women were shockingly and brutally murdered in a house in clydach - a disabled
Grandmother, a mother (Mandy Power) and her two young DDs. The mother was having a lesbian affair with an ex police officer, whose husband was also an officer along with his twin brother who was quite high up in the constabulary (this is off the top of my head).

As far as I can remember, on the night in question the twin had gone off on some sort of unexplained ‘call’ by himself. People close to Mandy Power had reported that she told them that her and her daughters were being threatened and had received death threats from the husband of her female lover. I believe the husband of the lover was the first on the scene - lots of dodginess with regards to the collecting and presentation of evidence, failure to secure the scene, doctoring of documents by the police etc. Three police officers were arrested, but released without charge. Then another (male) lover of Mandy’s, a man called Dai Morris was arrested and convicted, and I believe is still in prison and maintains his innocence to this day despite meaning that he will basically never be released because of his refusal to admit guilt.

There was some weirdness surrounding unknown male DNA found at the scene too - but also not a single trace of DNA, fingerprints or evidence of Dai Morris, the only evidence being a gold chain that he had left at the house at some point. Someone else reportedly saw a man in a police jacket walking from the house at the time of the murders, and picked either the officer or his twin (can’t remember which) from a lineup.

It was about 15 or 16 years ago but people still talk about it to this day.

The best thing to come out of this thread has been the remarkably measured responses of some people. How do you stay so calm and type a proper response when someone denies the moon landing or starts with the old MMR thing? Usually for me the red mist descends and I lose control.

Clearly the moon landing/MMR people are intensely ignorant. It would take 2 seconds of internet research from a decent source to fix the problem.

The MM, Sandy Hook, 9/11 inside job people are repulsive. The end.

The Diana one I get because she specifically said she thought she was going to be bumped off in a car accident before her death, however I don’t believe it actually happened. They would have literally nothing to gain from this and everything to lose. She wasn’t pregnant and Charles was bonking Camilla before he was even engaged to Diana. He never stopped! Why would he suddenly want her killed over it? I know he’s a bit of a jerk but to do that to his own children? Why on Earth would he bother? And the Queen? She’s the actual Queen! Diana was just some annoying rich girl with no power whatsoever by the time she died. It’s a tragedy for her kids and that’s all it is.

The most irritating one on here (as far as the stupid and laughable rather than offensive goes) is the Queen Elizabeth was a boy one. Wtaf? Is it so incomprehensible that a woman could run the place? How insanely offensive (yes, actually this is offensive too)! Do you really think none of the men and women who took intimate care of her, dressed her (!), examined her, hadn’t notice she had no breasts and a penis? No periods? Come on! That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard (which is really something after reading this thread).

Pretty much all the child abuse ones I believe, sadly. Just a bunch of cover ups from rich men. Poor Corey Feldman has been talking about it for so long. I’m glad people are finally listening to him.

It would be good if people could start to give actual reasons for a conspiracy taking place, rather than “I can’t put my finger on it” or “it’s just a feeling I get” or “it doesn’t add up”.

What? The royals literally had everything to gain by getting rid of Diana. She was trashing their reputation one interview at a time. Also she and Charles would have to have officially divorced if he wanted officially be with Camilla, carrying the scandal on and on for decades potentially.

I don’t think for one min that the queen or Charles personally ordered her death but the whole thing was mighty suspect. I always found it staggering that nothing of the crash was caught on cctv in central Paris.

She and Charles were officially divorced.

We’re they?! I didn’t know that. I thought they were in the process of divorce when she died. I still believe she had plenty of power, enough to worry some people.

Charles and Di were divorced, and she only gave one interview. By the time she died, she & Charles had made their peace.

Nothing of the crash was caught on CCTV? Er...maybe that's because there were no cameras in the tunnel.

What is "suspect" about a woman, not wearing a seatbelt, dying in a car crashed by a drunk man?

There were 14 cameras in the tunnel, it was claimed that none were in working order, yet someone was issued a speed ticket 15 mins before the crash happened. Also the other very dodgy thing was the white fiat that was seen colliding with the Mercedes, leaving paint marks. They never traced the fiat but a photographer who happened to be a paid informant for Brit and French intelligence own a white fiat. He was found burnt to death 3 years later in his car. I agree there’s lots of evidence that people point to that capture headlines, that have been debunked (the pregnancy thing for instance) yet still something stinks.