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Which conspiracy theories do you believe?

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beluga425 · 18/02/2018 15:48

Which theories, dismissed by many as conspiracy theories, do you regard as the truth?

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Mummyoftwo91 · 18/02/2018 17:51

I believe 9/11 was an inside job. I have a friend in the us military and he said the morning of 9/11 the base was locked down and no one was told why, like they knew something was about to happen

BeHappyMummy · 18/02/2018 17:52

Do people really believe this rubbish?

Mummyoftwo91 · 18/02/2018 17:53

I also agree with pp who said Area 51 is just an attraction/diversion, definitely think all the top secret stuff happens in unmarked boring buildings and we wouldn't have a clue

buddhasbelly · 18/02/2018 17:53

@k2p2k2tog and @StealthPolarBear I go past the loch every week. I'm afraid I've yet to see said monster...but he's definitely real tourists please keep coming and buy nessie tat

k2p2k2tog · 18/02/2018 17:54

Please don't click on any Chris Spivey links - this man has a conviction for harrassing the family of Lee Rigby in his quest to prove it was all a government set-up.

Disgusting man.

It's all very well to have a light-hearted look at conspiracy theories but people like him who are so fixed in their idea that everything is faked and that the government are behind everything are causing real harm to bereaved families.

HeartOfSass · 18/02/2018 17:55

Stealth - ha, you are right re top of egg! It was my poor writing skills. I was trying to explain how the plane sliced off the top of the building (structurally speaking) by going through it not far from the top.

Back to the actual building not the egg, Smile the weight of the now unsupported sliced portion on the top, combined with the weight of the jet plane plus the intense heat from the burning fuel combined would mean that the top third or quarter of the tower would have been unsupported properly and would, as it obviously did, fall down and in upon itself. It was too top heavy. It would have been far more odd if it had exploded outwards like some people expected to see.

Nonibaloni · 18/02/2018 17:56

I love a little forray into madness. But so quickly I end up on my high horse. The cover up with the moon landings was the enormous input of black woman paid a pittance. We know now but suggest they were anything other than admin at the time? Jimmy Saville and his ilk are protected but people we pay to expose them, the effort that goes into that is sickening.
How many people were taught about the glory of the British Empire? Who pioneered chemical warfare and gas chambers? When talk of women’s war work do you immediately think of taking over men’s jobs on the home front? So many of the glorious medical advances that prolong life are basically the result of human vivisection but we gloss over our own history.
So yes I’m very much a conspiracy believer but their never give me much pleasure. I’ll get down now, horses make me uncomfortable.

confusednotcom2 · 18/02/2018 17:56

I believe in Nessie & Santa ☺️

DorisDangleberry · 18/02/2018 17:56

Prince William is well known around the gay clubs of London He also can't actually fly a helicopter, it's all a front to look more macho

Backenette · 18/02/2018 17:56

Wtc7 was dodgy structurally - it was built over some sort of a structure like a power substation or something. They actually had trouble finding tenants because people didn’t believe the structure was sound.
Fire was more than enough to weaken the supporting structure (I think it only had one central metal column, as well as being built over the substation)

Of course we went to the moon. There are mirrors up there you can shine lasers off! Just because we didn’t go back after the last mission means nothing - a lot of the space race funding was driven by posturing at the Russians. Just wait until the Chinese start at it for real - funding will miraculously appear.

I do think David Kelley was murdered. He is not the only scientist to have died in very odd circumstances- one of whom was a good friend of mine 😢.

I thinn there are plenty of coverups. It tends to be the nastier, grubbier stuff like child abuse in high places, dodgy finances and backhanders - the more spectacular stuff is a good distraction from it.

Oh on the subject of people killing scientists: Marconi deaths.

specialsubject · 18/02/2018 17:56

while the Prince Harry thing may be fun to snigger about, ('teach to ride?') Di didn't join the games of extra-marital hide-the-sausage until after his birth. Charles is his father, the red hair is on the Spencer side.

Marilyn Monroe is almost certainly an accidental overdose, it was inevitable. It is possible that there were people there in the house who should not have been, but she wasn't murdered.

the rest is unscientific fuckwittery that falls apart with a willingness to see evidence and the critical thinking ability to interpret it. Or the usual hidden agendas; the Jews/Commies/Muslims did it.

FridgeCut · 18/02/2018 17:57

I thought the Fatima one was that Andy off of Cbeebies and Fatima Whitbread off of the olympics was the same person Grin

Pumpkinisland89 · 18/02/2018 17:57

911 - planes struck the towers (not sure about the Pentagon stuff though) and I am willing to believe it caused the buildings to collapse however there is NO way that the powers that be didn't know about it. Whether they let it happen or weren't able to stop it I don't know.

I know terrorism is real and scary but it is also creates highly convinient news stories to distract and justify things to happen. This makes me question what we are being told.

Most of the wars in the middle east are about oil.

The Denver Airport thing I only heard about recently (strangely it was in the Telegraph just a few days ago - weird! Was it planned? Is the OP actually researching responses based on the article...?) and it's all a bit odd isn't it?

New World Order stuff. Wouldn't surprise me if something like that was happening. Meglomaics and crazy people seem to rule most of the world anyway.

usualGubbins · 18/02/2018 17:58

I'm still shocked that over a third of Americans don't believe in evolution. But then the US voted in Trump...

DorisDangleberry · 18/02/2018 17:59

WW2 didn't actually take place. The whole thing has been faked by Hollywood so the big studios can make Oscar worthy 'real life' films

Andylion · 18/02/2018 18:01

isthismummy.

I first heard of that on this website.

Weedsnseeds1 · 18/02/2018 18:02

isthismummy United Airlines livery was grey. They changed on 2012.

Backenette · 18/02/2018 18:03

I remember watching 9/11 on the TV and being more deeply disturbed than any event I can remember. I said to my flat mates at the time that this will be our generation’s JFK.

Some things are so horrific (and god it was horrific to watch, people jumping...) that you don’t want to think that stuff like that can happen. You want to to be designed/the fault of someone/for a purpose. The truth is that some very unpleasant people with very unpleasant ideologies killed an awful lot of people and the powers that are supposed to protect us failed.

What’s never been fully explained is who funded it, how and why, and why US intelligence didn’t pick it up. That’s the really nasty stuff. All the quibbling over jet fuel and collapse footprints distracts nicely from who funded it and how, and why

NameChanger22 · 18/02/2018 18:04

Do people really believe this rubbish?

Do people really still believe everything they're told and everything they see on TV? There's loads of shit going on that we don't know about. We are all being manipulated, brainwashed and lied to. It's very difficult to work out what is fact and fiction; all you can do is keep an open mind and don't just accept what you see on TV and in the media as the truth.

raffle · 18/02/2018 18:05

“Fatima Witbred off of the Olympics”

Grin
safariboot · 18/02/2018 18:05

Regarding the Moon landings, I don't think they could have been faked and the secret kept for 50 years.

The Apollo program is recorded as having employed 400,000 people across 20,000 companies. So you've got three main conspiracy scenarios:

Only a few top people knew there wouldn't be a landing? Well the people who designed the rocket are, well, rocket scientists. If the government asks them to build a Moon rocket they'll build a Moon rocket. Then the USA has a working rocket so why on Earth would they hoax the landing?

A lot of people knew there wouldn't be a landing? If you think a Moon landing is impossible, then you'd have to think that anybody working in the program who realised that would be bribed or threatened into keeping quiet. That's gonna be an awful lot of people. You think none of them would have gone public with their stories? Or gone to the Soviets? And yet to my knowledge, nobody advocating the Moon hoax hypothesis has been confirmed to have worked on Apollo.

Those jobs and people never existed? Well for one there's the money issue, so then you probably need banks and the IRS in on the conspiracy. For two reporters and historians have spoken to many people who worked on Apollo; to uphold the conspiracy that means getting more people in on it.

Then you've got other issues. The Apollo spacecraft sent radio transmissions back to Earth and pretty much anybody could have listened in on them and worked out where the spacecraft was. A spare Saturn V rocket launched Skylab which was easily observed from the ground and later re-entered Earth's atmosphere and pieces landed in Australia. The Apollo landing sites have been photographed by later probes orbiting the Moon.

The whole idea of faking a Moon landing and keeping it secret just falls apart I feel. Nixon was President when the landings happened and he couldn't even keep a burglary a secret.

Pumpkinisland89 · 18/02/2018 18:05

And Roswell is absolutely a distraction. It wasn't a weather balloon but it makes an excellent slight of hand and keeps people busy looking somewhere other than where they should be.

And floride. Again, there is no way top scientific peopke don't know the deadly side effects of poisoining our drinking water. It's an easy and cheap way of getting rid of a waste product.

Oh dear! Stepping away from the edge now! 😂

beluga425 · 18/02/2018 18:07

OMG I got on a plane after writing that question and now there are 10 pages to get through.

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EC22 · 18/02/2018 18:07

9/11 was an inside job. I’m utterly baffled that this is still viewed as a conspiracy theory.

DorisDangleberry · 18/02/2018 18:08

Conspiracy theorists are funded by big business to boost sales of tin foil. All those pushing 9/11 or Diana conspiracies are in the pocket of Alcoa.