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Trump Talk: or, Lift every voice and sing

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lionheart · 17/02/2018 19:58

It's Black History Month and the fight goes on (plus, we all need a boost that does not come from ye olde hop flask).

Lift every voice and sing

Till earth and heaven ring,
Ring with the harmonies of Liberty;
Let our rejoicing rise
High as the listening skies,
Let it resound loud as the rolling sea.
Sing a song full of the faith that the dark past has taught us,
Sing a song full of the hope that the present has brought us.

Facing the rising sun of our new day begun,
Let us march on till victory is won.

Stony the road we trod,
Bitter the chastening rod,
Felt in the days when hope unborn had died;

Yet with a steady beat,
Have not our weary feet
Come to the place for which our fathers sighed?
We have come over a way that with tears has been watered,
We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,
Out from the gloomy past,

Till now we stand at last
Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast.

God of our weary years,

God of our silent tears,
Thou who hast brought us thus far on the way;
Thou who hast by Thy might

Led us into the light,
Keep us forever in the path, we pray.
Lest our feet stray from the places, our God, where we met Thee,
Lest, our hearts drunk with the wine of the world, we forget Thee;
Shadowed beneath Thy hand,

May we forever stand.

True to our God,
True to our native land.

James Weldon Johnson (1900)

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/02/2018 11:34

What of the “The nations raged, but your wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, and for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear your name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth.” (I had to google that). Although the fact that lots of evangelicals think Trump is their saviour puts rest to any idea of consistency or regard for the teaching for Christianity I suppose.

ouais breaks are definitely needed. There's so much I want to discuss from Stein/Sanders and their reactions to the Russian indictments, attacks on the ACA that happened yesterday, Mike Farb's credibility but I've run out of (metaphorical) bandwidth and just can't.

lionheart · 21/02/2018 11:49

For Trump fatigue. Gin Cake Brew

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lionheart · 21/02/2018 12:59

Dan Pfeiffer

Verified account

@danpfeiffer
14h14 hours ago

Kushner and I had the same title and he sits in my old office. There are only three options:

  1. Sanders is lying
  2. Kelly is lying and Kushner is keeping his interim clearance
  3. Kushner’s new portfolio includes staring at the wall from 9-5
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AcrossthePond55 · 21/02/2018 13:14

Sorry my replies are late, we took a 'snow drive' yesterday.

Gin Yes they do want to hasten the apocalypse. It means that Christ will come and take them to Heaven beforehand. They see Scrotus as their one way ticket.

Boat DH get the digested version. He'd take over the thread if I gave him a chance.

Now back upthread to catch up.

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/02/2018 13:19

Asha Rangappa piece

How Trump Could End Up Diminishing His Own Power

When Mueller calls, Trump is going to have a choice: Accept the interview or risk curbing his own authority—and that of other presidents in future.

www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/20/how-trump-could-end-up-diminishing-his-own-power-217035

lionheart · 21/02/2018 13:21

'There simply aren’t any theological gymnastics wild enough to make it work.'

johnpavlovitz.com/2018/02/21/no-christian-jesus-didnt-say-can-guns/

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/02/2018 13:32

CNN
‏*@CNN*
The NRA has accepted CNN's invitation to participate in a nationally televised town hall tonight at 9 ET with students, parents and community members who were affected by last week's Florida school shooting cnn.it/2Cz2c95

lionheart · 21/02/2018 13:39

'The National Rifle Association will participate in CNN's nationally televised town hall Wednesday with students, parents and community members who were affected by last week's school shooting.'

edition.cnn.com/2018/02/21/politics/cnn-town-hall-parkland/index.html

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/02/2018 13:44

TheBeat w/Ari Melber‏Verified account
@TheBeatWithAri

"They were all lying" - Fmr. Trump aide @NunbergSam on Pence, Conway and Manafort denying Trump campaign meetings with Russia:

twitter.com/TheBeatWithAri/status/966101080944898049

lionheart · 21/02/2018 14:04

www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/02/26/trumps-miss-universe-gambit

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/02/2018 14:14

Aaaaaand he's awake

Donald J. Trump
‏*@realDonaldTrump*
Question: If all of the Russian meddling took place during the Obama Administration, right up to January 20th, why aren’t they the subject of the investigation? Why didn’t Obama do something about the meddling? Why aren’t Dem crimes under investigation? Ask Jeff Session!

lionheart · 21/02/2018 14:15

Oh well.

:www.justsecurity.org/52775/trump-associates-decline-offer-pardon/

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/02/2018 14:49

Clicky link

www.justsecurity.org/52775/trump-associates-decline-offer-pardon/

lionheart · 21/02/2018 14:51

Clicky link that actually works. Smile

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/02/2018 14:54

Urgh

Devin Nunes
‏*@DevinNunes*
More Devin Nunes Retweeted The Federalist
Catch up on mainstream media Russian conspiracy theories in this piece by @FDRLST PS-If you are a Russian Bot please make this go viral PSS-If you’re not a Russian Bot you will become one if you retweet

[I've not included the link to the federalist]

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/02/2018 15:10

Texas school district threatens to suspend students who protest gun violence

thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/374812-texas-school-district-threatens-to-suspend-students-who-protest

Roussette · 21/02/2018 15:29

45's 'O' obsession is getting beyond a joke

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/02/obsessed-jealous-trump-claims-obama-never-used-oval-office.html

PerkingFaintly · 21/02/2018 15:42

Oh how interesting.

I heard of the The Federalist for the first time yesterday, when someone started a trans thread here citing a piece from it. And now Nunes is tweeting the same magazine with all the finesse of a Facebook fanny posting "I know none of my friends will be brave enough to Like this."

Anyway, since I have it to hand, here's what I found out yesterday. (Media Matters isn't neutral, but where I checked, their assessment of The Fed seemed accurate.)

Introducing The Federalist, A New Web Magazine For Anti-LGBT Conservatives
www.mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04/02/introducing-the-federalist-a-new-web-magazine-f/198721

The Federalist's publisher is Ben Domenech, a right-wing blogger who used to be managing editor for "health care policy" at the Heartland Institute – a thinktank partly funded by the Koch brothers. The Heartland Institute is big in attempting to undermine climate science, and working with tobacco companies to deny the health impacts of smoking.

I was particularly impressed with the Heartland Unabomber advertising campaign:

On May 4, 2012, Heartland launched a digital billboard advertising campaign in the Chicago area featuring a photo of Ted Kaczynski, the "Unabomber" whose mail bombs killed three people and injured 23 others, asking the question, “I still believe in global warming, do you?” The Institute planned for the campaign to feature murderer Charles Manson, communist leader Fidel Castro and perhaps Osama bin Laden, asking the same question. The Institute justified the billboards saying "the most prominent advocates of global warming aren’t scientists. They are murderers, tyrants, and madmen."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Heartland_Institute#May_2012_"Unabomber"_billboard_campaign

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/02/2018 15:45

Credible they ain't.

Also problematic:

Christopher Ingraham‏Verified account
@_cingraham
First page of @YouTube search results for David Hogg:

  1. Conspiracy video
  2. Conspiracy video
  3. CNN video
  4. CBS video
  5. Conspiracy video
  6. Conspiracy video
  7. Conspiracy video
  8. Conspiracy video
  9. Conspiracy video
10. Conspiracy video www.youtube.com/results?search_query=david+hogg
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/02/2018 15:53

Also meant to say: the brazenness with which Nunes is explicitly not taking his role as lead investigator (in the House Intelligence Committee) into the Russian interference seriously is breathtaking. I see that he also went on Fox pushing more HRC/DNC/Russians Obama/Comey/Clinton made up scandals so perhaps it shouldn't be breathtaking any more but I still find him unbelievable.

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 21/02/2018 15:55

Yashar Ali 🐘
‏*@yashar*
The WH has given VA Sec Shulkin the green light to quash an internal rebellion among conservative foes of his leadership. Shulkin said he’d begun investigating what he called “subversion”, and those who have defied him “won’t be working in my operation.”

And

Walter Shaub
@waltshaub
One week after a scathing IG investigative report reveals gross malfeasance by @SecShulkin, he announces a “purge” of those guilty of “subversion.” This is shocking. Back on Earth, we have a name for this sort of thing. We call it whistleblower retaliation.

Shulkin says he has White House backing to purge VA

The embattled Cabinet head said he's investigating what he called 'subversion.'
www.politico.com/story/2018/02/20/shulkin-veterans-agency-purge-417896

woman11017 · 21/02/2018 16:23

But what still isn't being discussed is that Douglas High School is more than 40% Jewish, that Cruz believed that Jews were part of a conspiracy to unseat white people from power and destroy the world, and that the shooting could credibly be termed an anti-Semitic hate crime

www.haaretz.com/opinion/call-the-douglas-high-shooting-by-its-name-an-anti-semitic-attack-1.5842172

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