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AIBU to complain about male nursery manager?

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Barnabix · 15/02/2018 19:15

DD’s nursery has a relatively new manager (male). DD is school age, so attends as after-school and holiday care.

He seems good in a number of respects. He has implemented a couple of activities for the kids on certain days during the week, e.g. one day per week the nursery hire the local hall and the kids get to play football there instead of being cooped up in the nursery.

I think this is good. Also initially felt positively about the fact that he is male. He seems more enthusiastic and energetic than some of the women who work there.

Here are my questions to you wise ladies:

1.AIBU to find this creepy? Twice now I’ve seen him pick up and cuddle one of DD’s friends (6 years old). In a playful way, she’s come up to him and sort of put her arms up asking for her to pick him up. It just doesn’t sit well with me. It would be totally different if it was a baby/toddler. This is a school age child who needs boundaries.. especially in physical contact with caregivers e.g. teachers? He might be well meaning, but what about if someone in the future wasn’t, and this girl thinks its okay for grown men to be cuddling her .. teachers of 4/5 year olds aren’t supposed to hug their pupils, so why should he?
Also, if he does that when I’m there, how tactile is he when I’m not..?

  1. I really don’t think he sticks governmental requirements of staffing ratios and requirements when he takes the kids on little outings. E.g. for a walk round the village etc. I think he takes them himself when strictly speaking it should be 2 adults. He also never gives ETA of when they’ll be back, so twice now I’ve come to collect DD and been left waiting 15/20 mins for them to get back. AIBU to think he should issue a timetable in advance of what they’re doing? Or even say in the morning “we won’t be back till 5.15pm today because we have X planned”. It seems obvious to me that you would just plan to always be back by say 4pm when parents start to do pick ups ?!
  2. I don’t even know if they get their afternoon snack when they’re on these adventures. It all just seems pretty last minute. Although I like the fact they’re outside and doing stuff obviously.

Am i being too pedantic?!

OP posts:
Valentinesfart · 16/02/2018 08:45

OP can you specify why you needed to say he is male.

Probably because in a hundred cases of sexual abuse 98 of them would be male. If she had said "nursery worker" which tends to be a job mostly done by females, most people would imagine a female nursery worker and tell her to stop being ridiculous bearing in mind what they know about sexual abuse by women.

Some men abuse, some of those men choose to be in jobs where they can carry it out.

It is relevant.

Valentinesfart · 16/02/2018 08:46

t’s not women being sexist that has caused this.

It really doesn't need to be said does it? Disingenuous bull shit.

coffeeforone · 16/02/2018 09:00

YABU about 1 and 3 - this wouldn’t be an issue
YANBU about 2 - this needs to be addressed

needmysleep75 · 16/02/2018 09:25

As with everyone else 1 & 3 YABU 2 depends, how many is he taking? Are you sure he's on his own. Legally this is the advice from the department of education 'a full risk assessment before each trip, and said that there should be at least as many adults to children as there would be in the classroom.'

DropItLikeASquat · 16/02/2018 17:30

its not unreasonable to be concerned about the care given to your child due to understaffing, if you know for certain that the ratios are incorrect. However, it is unreasonable to look at a male working in what society apparently considers a 'woman' job and immediately think 'sexual predator'.
You are completely over analysing every hug, kind gesture and work associated care as something inappropriate and frankly its disgraceful.
No wonder men are scared of doing jobs they feel a vocation towards because they are not the norm.
Shall the same assumptions be made towards male nurses, male teachers, male swimming instructors or camp leaders?
I just can't understand how anyone can raise confident women if they are steered away from any man who's job status/access to children/level of responsibility may, just maybe give them the opportunity to be a sex offender.

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