To think it’s wrong of this man to film a child?

[MrsA2015]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5391341/Passenger-films-toddlers-eight-hour-tantrum-flight.html

I can see why he filmed it but for it to be put on the net is too far! I feel quite sorry for the mother she must have felt mortified

I've just reported and asked MNHQ to remove the link from the OP

Don't think we should be adding to the guy's profits

'I was most surprised by the fact that none of the flight crew stoped some of the behaviour. "

I don't believe they would let the unsafe behaviour go on for 8 hours. I suspect what is shown is carefully edited.

I'd be interested to know why his parents took him on an 8 hour flight. Most people wouldn't take their sen kids on a long flight if they knew they couldn't cope with it.

I suspect what is shown is carefully edited.

Wait, do you mean to tell me that there are things on the internet that aren't real??

Butteredparsn1ps good call. its like advertising

Are there any comments from other passengers saying that its not a true representation?

He looks like my friends little boy who has sen. A little tolerance would be in order. The child is obviously struggling and it's not as if the mum wants that is it. The guy is a twat for filming that.

My view is that the man should not have published the video. It may have been ok to video and send privately to the airline to ask for some explanation. What we don't know for sure from this clip is whether the child has SEN, how many strategies the parent tried during the 8 hours, whether the screaming actually went on for the full 8 hours, the reason for travelling, how predictable this behaviour would have been. I have compassion for the passengers because the noise was distressing, the parent because this was clearly a difficult situation but mostly the 3 year old child who was obviously stressed and in meltdown. I don't have the answers to solve the situation. I think the airline might be wise to have an investigation to see if things could have been handled better.

That's disgraceful. Every one of those passengers should be given a refund. That really isn't acceptable. When it became clear before take off that the kid was that distressed, they should have taken him off the plane and the mother made other arrangements, maybe to travel by boat, rather than inflict all that on the kid and every other passenger.

Sounds like airline missed a trick by not removing mother and child before take off

It would be slighly uncomfortable as a passenger

Understatement of the thread!!

That poor poor child, he is so obviously autistic and in complete sensory overload, I could totally see my autistic daughter behaving like this and I understand how stressful it can be to others, sometimes I wear her ear defenders when she is in full blown meltdown.

But to label a child 'demonic' and judge his parent is just the lowest of the low, she must have had a compelling reason for taking that flight as believe me, you don't take your autistic child into a challenging situation like that unless you have no other choice.

I cannot believe people are equating a stressed out child to TIMs invading women’s spaces!! yeah, cause that’s the same.

Toddler/Brat could have been distressed or had Special needs

so could any of the other passengers, made worse by this child and parent.

For those who feel strongly that the man is a turd this is the response from HQ

Its up to folk not clicking the link - although OP can make the request

Of course they won’t delete a fail link. Bossom buddies.

Someone on here said that this child had the 'right' to fly even if it upset a whole plane full of people @Donny. Tough luck to them, they just have to suck it up. The rights of one person for some reason is more important than the rights of a majority. I just saw the parallels with women's spaces. The rights of the majority are swept away for the rights of a minority. 'Its my right' drives me nuts because its a two fingers up to everybody else.

I just saw the parallels with women's spaces.

Yes because adults have been oppressed by toddlers throughout the history of mankind. Toddlers have been abusing, raping, murdering adults forever and them having a scream on a plane is just another tool they are deliberately using to put adults in their place and take control over the adult world. I totally see where you’re coming from. It’s the same.

I think given the child doesn’t use a single word (not even no in my admittedly hurried listening) it’s higjhly likely they have a communication disorder. Even more likely given that the mother remains calm and reassuring (when my adult son has a major pop at me I remain calm and reassuring and rub his arm if I can - if I don’t the situation will get much worse). Go the mother for not feeling she had to placate the crowd by behaving in the way others would expect).

Please look at the way some of you are talking about this child.

To get back to the original point, I don't think that it was wrong for the man to film it. He wasn't filming the child, he was filming the scene that the passengers were being subjected to.

If he were filming a child sitting quietly for 8 hours then putting the footage on the internet, that would be wrong. As it is, he is making people aware of the experience the passengers had. It's for the airline company and society as a whole to discuss whether passengers should accept this kind of experience, whether the needs of individual passengers should outweigh the vast majority who would be perfectly happy sitting in peace and quiet.

This was me and DS a few years ago. He is autistic. I had everything prepared I had everything organised for him and then.... it all just fell apart for a variety of reasons that I won’t go into. Cue loads of screaming, thrashing around, refusing to put his belt on for take off ans landing. The cabin crew were amazing. The guy shielded us from the evil looks from others and was so patient. I managed to get the belt on for take off eventually and then managed to stop the screaming and switch to quieter sobbing instead.

Don’t get me wrong I have sympathy for others stuck on the plane listening to the noise but the agony of watching your child so distressed is one of the hardest things you can go through as a parent.

FYI haven’t been on a plane with DS since and won’t be for the foreseeable future. Can’t put either of us through that again.

Can’t put either of us through that again.

..and more importantly a hundred other innocent passengers!

"I just saw the parallels with women's spaces."

They are not comparable. Women's spaces arguments are about people who are not biological females being in female spaces.
The space concerned is available for everyone.

The mum's right to take her DC on a plane do not trump the rights of the other passengers to a reasonably quiet journey. She is a complete twat if she took him on a flight when she knew he has needs which could not be met aboard a plane. Putting DS and all the other passengers through this is a real cunts trick.
I won't take DD4 on a plane until she is old enough to understand how boring it is and i can trust she will not disturb other passengers.

Loud noise especially high pitched physically hurts my ears. I can't believe they took off with the child that wound up in the first place. They wouldn't dream of taking off with an adult or teenager that agitated.