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how many transgender people do you know

504 replies

ambereeree · 14/02/2018 14:50

Just that really. I've only met one at work a man who had the change to a woman.
From the number of threads recently it would appear that people are bumping into trans people everywhere they turn.

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Fekko · 14/02/2018 19:40

Is it just me or are these tweets the work of adolescents trying to shock?

‘Yes dear that’s very nice, now finish your homework or there’s no pie for desert. No you don’t like in a fascist state. No you aren’t going to kill yourself over a piece of fucking pie. Fine. Speak to your lawyer again but he’ll just tell you what he told you when you complained that we wouldn’t call you ‘die terf die’ and you made granny cross...’

KnitFastDieWarm · 14/02/2018 19:43

My cousin is a trans man. His partner is a trans woman. They both think the current situation is ridiculous, think self ID is a bad idea, and just want it all to go away so they can get on with their lives in peace.

HildaZelda · 14/02/2018 19:44

Two.

1 )My neighbours ex, M to F, early 40's. I only ever knew her as female (10+ years) She and her ex have joint custody of the kids (10 and 12) Kids are fine with it as they never knew anything else. The call their mother Mum and just call her by her first (female) name but they always knew that biologically she's their dad.

  1. A man I knew through work. Hadn't seen him in a few years and bumped into him recently. He's transitioning at the moment and he's almost 70. He told me that basically he had to wait until his mother died to do it which I found really sad. She died last year at 94. It just seems awful that he basically had to live a lie for almost 70 years.
GoldenWorld · 14/02/2018 19:45

I've never met a transgender person to my knowledge. I went to school with a boy who was very into dressing up as a girl, wearing jewellery, acted very femininely etc. (this was all the way through primary school). I thought he would be as an adult but he's not, to my surprise.

PositivelyPERF · 14/02/2018 19:49

My niece is now calling herself a boy. My youngest boy has told me he has no less than five young friends that call themselves transgender. There is a man that is nearly 7’ fall that shops in my local Tesco, that has a deep voice, false breasts, long hair and loves to call every man he meets ‘love’ and stands over the top of women so he can get things off shelves. I see him regularly and he seems to need an awful lot of items that happen to be on the top shelf, where a woman is standing. 😒

StealingYourWiFi · 14/02/2018 19:50

One M to F, she's lovely but it does irk when she calls in sick with 'period pain'.

Fekko · 14/02/2018 19:52

Someone should call the BMJ...

drspouse · 14/02/2018 19:53

Oh I forgot one. Friend's daughter has ASD. Got into a selective school for secondary. Except aged 11 she decided she was a boy and it was a girl's school. Home schooled for a year. Now a girl again and at a mixed school.

MySqueeHasBeenSeverelyHarshed · 14/02/2018 19:53

Thirteen that I know personally, mostly MtF's but two 'genderfluid' natal women, one FtM.

Of those, four are emotionally unstable trainwrecks. Two are mostly holding it together but are very manipulative and unpleasant to be around. Three are somewhat normal, aside from not having a snowball's chance in hell of passing but they've made their peace with that. All of these are the MtFs.

The genderfluids have had documented mental health issues long before deciding they were non-binary, I suspect they took on the label hoping to find something they were missing but it hasn't made a lick of difference to their well-being, besides alienating friends who slipped up and misgendered them.

The FTM is an absolute sweetheart. He knows he looks like a twelve-year-old despite being in his late twenties but he's fine with it.

MySqueeHasBeenSeverelyHarshed · 14/02/2018 19:56

Oh, and there's a huge amount I know of because their maladaptive behavior has earned them a lot of notoriety, would have interacted with maybe four of them but they have interacted a lot with friends of mine. (This is beyond the public figures Mumsnet would know, these are the kind of people you run into only if you're involved in certain communities.)

MaMisled · 14/02/2018 19:58

I know four within our very small town. All Male to Female.

DreamyMcDreamy · 14/02/2018 19:59

Turning this into an argument of "How many trans people do you know?" is another way dismissing legitimate concerns about women & child protection issues.

Absolutely seems to be the case! I don't care if you're transgender, that's up to you. Each to their own.
I DO have a problem with women's rights seemingly being eroded though.
Blimey, I've never thought of myself as a feminist before and actively stayed away from the feminist boards but this all has me Angry
Try telling me I'm not a woman and I'm a ciswoman and I feel like marching out there with placards saying FUCK OFF all over them Grin
If anyone calls me it in RL I'll be all on to be polite in my response and not call them a knobber!!

jainaproudm · 14/02/2018 20:01

Three - used to work with FtM man, and know two MtF women through friends.

PhyllisWig · 14/02/2018 20:04

Two, both mtf.

One transitioned over a decade ago and was someone at work. There was a lot of chat as it was out of most people's experience but there was sympathy there and work was good.

One is a family member of dhs . I am fond of her and wish her well but her and her ex wife both behaved so badly when they split their kids are ruined.

She wasn't that stable pre transition (massive temper) and can still an arsehole. I was not impressed when she tried to tell me how 'women' felt and how she needed her pink girly time. Dh was pissing himself at the look on my face.....,

Mayday01 · 14/02/2018 20:08

A close childhood friend, FtM, has gender dysphoria. Has had all the operations. Accepted as a man, has wife and kids. Now in his 40's.
My mother has a gang of friends who regularly meet up, one members is MtF, old style transsexual, and has been for decades. I would have no issues sharing spaces with her, and have done in the past.
A MtF relative, very very troubled, in and out of jail. Very threatening, and can't even imagine being alone with them.

limon · 14/02/2018 20:09

One fully transitioned m to f
One living as a woman m to f but not wanting to fully transition

One woman who says she is gender fluid

One woman who now says they are man (and seems to think having short hair and hairy armpits makes them a man)

PositivelyPERF · 14/02/2018 20:11

A MtF relative, very very troubled, in and out of jail. Very threatening, and can't even imagine being alone with them the frightening fact is that he could end up in a female jail.

DreamyMcDreamy · 14/02/2018 20:12

Is it just me or are these tweets the work of adolescents trying to shock?

The thing is, even if they are,the conversations underneath show that a hell of a lot of people are agreeing with them, and if you dare question or say hang on a minute, you're a TERF and a bigot.

PositivelyPERF · 14/02/2018 20:12

One woman who now says they are man (and seems to think having short hair and hairy armpits makes them a man oh fuck! I’m a man!

Fairenuff · 14/02/2018 20:12

So far OP's thread has proved the opposite of what they intended but OP is nowhere to be seen Hmm

Fekko · 14/02/2018 20:13

Ive got hairy legs too. Does that count?

IfNot · 14/02/2018 20:18

Not every trans woman is a drag queen. Most have normal boring jobs and normal lives and children just like all of us do.

Are you taking about transvestites? Because I know 2, and yes they have boring jobs and children. One of them is still describing himself as a tranny. The other one (very messed up lad HUGE coincidence I'm sure) is now saying he's transgender. Hasn't gone the full monty and claimed to be a woman yet but give it time.
I also know a transsexual m 2 f who is very demure in her M &S and nothing like a drag queen.
I find it fucking hilarious when (mostly younger) people think they invented sexual experimentation, or subverting gender norms. Some of us have been around the block a few times and have come to some fairly sane conclusions. That's all.

sagamartha · 14/02/2018 20:20

So far OP's thread has proved the opposite of what they intended but OP is nowhere to be seen

OP had returned. Seems to be that some people know trans people, others don't. Some see to know quite a lot.

Seems some trans people are lovely and others aren't. Just like most people really.

Fekko · 14/02/2018 20:21

Transvestite - yup, I know what that is
Transsexual - that too
Transgender - not really sure about that
Non binary - not a clue! Asexual? Not really bothered? Bisexual?

ClemDanfango · 14/02/2018 20:22

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