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how many transgender people do you know

504 replies

ambereeree · 14/02/2018 14:50

Just that really. I've only met one at work a man who had the change to a woman.
From the number of threads recently it would appear that people are bumping into trans people everywhere they turn.

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Melamin · 14/02/2018 18:15

I remember Julia - her surgery had problems I remember Sad

celinequeen · 14/02/2018 18:22

None.

Readermumof3 · 14/02/2018 18:23

None.

Monoblock67 · 14/02/2018 18:24

One, I think. One of the admin staff at my GP surgery has gone from female to male over the years. He looks amazing and he always remembers us by name.

Boulshired · 14/02/2018 18:28

The same question to older teenagers/ young adults in large education establishments would probably be quite high. I have noticed DS1 rarely says he or she in conversation anymore, he just sticks to names. I asked him and he reckons about 15 but probably more from sixth form and his previous school. Non binary being the most common.

helpfulperson · 14/02/2018 18:36

I know or have know 4 MtF over the years. However given that if I hadn't know them before I would never have realised about 3 of them I suspect that the answer may be more. In all the cases it did seem oddly 'right'.

MsJuniper · 14/02/2018 18:38

One mtf through work - I have never spoken to her about gender/trans stuff but she has been involved in some feminist events at my work. She doesn't wear a lot of makeup or particularly "feminine" signalling clothes. I am intrigued to know more but obviously not going to ask.

Xulishesthepilot · 14/02/2018 18:39

None that I know of.

A friend tells me sometimes about her mtf colleague though. She's very fond of her.

I think I rather like this thread, for the most part. I'm finding the little stories and insights re-humanising. A sort of "un-othering" of some of the people behind the politics.

VileyRose · 14/02/2018 18:40

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GaraMedouar · 14/02/2018 18:43

None

Yambabe · 14/02/2018 18:43

More that I could count. I'm not particularly moving in LGBTetc circles but I do have a large circle of acquaintances in the rock/alternative world and it seems to be quite common and very accepted there.

Mostly MtF and mostly 40s/50s in age. I know a few FtMs too but they are mostly younger (late teens, early 20s) and DC of friends.

I have no issue with them. They are just my friends, and if they act like dicks I cut them off. But that's down to them being dicks, not due to their gender.

I do find myself increasingly gender-critical though and I totally get the opposition to self-ID. Because although I don't think there is any danger from transwomen in female spaces I believe allowing a loophole whereby abusive men can pretend they are trans to gain access is entirely possible and totally unacceptable.

Don't get me started on genderqueer and gender fluid though. Be what you want, dress and behave how you want, shag whoever you want as long as they are consensual and stfu about what a special snowflake you are ffs!

Bloodybridget · 14/02/2018 18:44

Two that I would say I know now, in that I see both of them occasionally; one FtM, one MtF. Have known other MtFs in the past. Friend has a DD who is now using male name and pronouns, is a very mixed-up kid sadly.

SkaPunkPrincess · 14/02/2018 18:45

Two, why?

Experiencedout · 14/02/2018 18:45

'My teens and their peers do a lot of talking, discussing, reading, thinking about these issues,'

Yes to this. It is definitely something that the discuss in my children's school a lot between them.

Just asked dd and she says four female to male
One male to female
8 non binary

darkriver198868 · 14/02/2018 18:45

My now ex husband is currently transitioning. (I didn't break up with them because of this. It was a multitude of other reasons.)

yawning801 · 14/02/2018 18:47

Two I think. Both FTM.

megletthesecond · 14/02/2018 18:50

One, FTM. An old neighbour. Nice chap. Didn't surprise me when he transitioned and it suits him (for want of a better phrase).

He transitioned almost a decade ago. Has been with his wife for well over a decade.

Experiencedout · 14/02/2018 18:50

I wonder how much of this with the younger generation is less like the older person who feels they were born in the wrong body and more the younger teens refusing to confirm to gender stereotypes rather than feeling they are in the wrong body?

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 14/02/2018 18:51

Quite a few. Professionally rather than as friends.

Lules · 14/02/2018 18:54

None that I know of although my husband’s ex was. None of my university students have told me they are or asked me to use different pronouns etc and I’ve taught a lot.

IfNot · 14/02/2018 18:54

I just Googled for an actual definition of non binary and gender queer. I'm really none the wiser.
I think that it means you don't feel wholly either masculine or feminine.
I don't know about about anyone else but when I was 8 and playing Indiana Jones on wasn't feeling like a girl. I was feeling like Indiana Jones.
I imagine most kids are gender fluid in their minds. As an adult I am preoccupied with stuff I need to do. I'm not doing those things "as a woman". I could be a 65 year old man when I go round Morrisons. I don't really have a gender in my head. I'm a human.

Aren't most people like that? Surely a 37 year old straight man doesn't clean the bathroom "as a straight male"?
It seems so regressive.
I am really starting to think teenagers are being groomed into these ideas by some very dodgy people. There is a massive difference between the old style transsexual person I know and the social media obsessed fetishists. It's not all one all and the same.

ambereeree · 14/02/2018 18:57

So in reality many of us don't know that many. I was thinking i must be walking around in ingorance going by the number of threads on mn recently.

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Womensplaceisintherevolution · 14/02/2018 18:57

One M to F, she's lovely :)

WiseOldHag · 14/02/2018 18:57

Yes you are

GrooovyLass · 14/02/2018 18:58

One MtF quite well, been living as a woman for over 10 years, in a relationship with a man. One FtM, don't know him as well but I know he's in a relationship with a woman. Also one self-described transvestite who is a gay man.