Are bare arms demeaning?

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Former Canadian PM Kim Campbell sparks debate with claim women's bare arms on TV are 'demeaning'

Kim Campbell sparked a wide debatewith a tweet which said sleeveless outfits "undermine credibility and gravitas".
She linked to a blog by a man, Dr Nick Morgan, who wrote thatwomen they will look "less brilliant" if they wear sleeveless outfits.

In his blog on the Public Words website, Dr Morgan wrote: “Think about what this means when you put on that sleeveless dress, women, or that expensive, cool-looking casual t-shirt, men.

“Apparently, we humans are pretty simple creatures.If you show up in front of us with skin exposed, we’re going to think about your body.If you’re wearing lots of clothing, we’re going to think about your mind.”
(Evening Standard)

Is she being unreasonable to hold this opinion or does she gave a point?

but this dress is figure hugging too, and would be perfectly acceptable.

I have also recently been thinking about how women and news readers present on tv. The photo posted by Lost upthread sums it up.

As for the photo of Alice Roberts, she’s a very intelligent and highly respected woman. However, I do think that dress Is too casual being both low cut and sleeveless. She is a serious woman, not eye candy and she isn’t doing herself any favours by presenting in this way.

Perhaps I see it this way because some of the places I worked, appearance was very importance. I wasn’t even allowed to wear trousers or have bare legs in my first job.

Short sleeves for men aren't considered professional where I work. There's no rule as such (as there isn't for bare shoulders, although I still wouldn't do it) but it's understood that a short sleeved shirt with your tie would be a mistake in terms of your image as a professional.

Saska No it is not like the other dress you posted which was very figure hugging. The dress above without sleeves, would be fine.

The pink dress has a higher neckline as well as having sleeves. I like it.

Yes you can see some of her breast in the black dress.

I'm not sure, actually, that shocking pink does present a very professional image, but the second dress is more modest than the first in very many ways.

Short sleeves for men aren't considered professional where I work.

God no. I imagine that in certain sectors, e.g. financial, a short sleeve shirt would disrupt the ecosystem.

Threads like these always depress me and make me think I should just wear a sack as I am obviously going to be judged for whatever I wear.

This would never work in the USA, it’s against the second amendment

Christ.

No they are not demeaning.

Of course you are judged about what you wear, why would anyone bother wearing a suit otherwise.

Demeaning? no. Sleeves can be just as demeaning as no sleeves imo.

But there are stark differences between the professional attire of men and women.

And some of these reasons are imo potentially demeaning, yes.

And some of these reasons are imo potentially demeaning, yes.

*And some of the reasons for these differences are imo potentially demeaning, yes.

Not demeaning.
But it is unprofessional I think to wear a vest style sleeveless top in a work environment.

I wouldn't wear a dress like this Cel982 without a top of some kind underneath.

Otherwise, where does it stop?

In wanton sex on the photocopier, fingers crossed.

Come on, Saska, are you for real? And surely you can see the difference between the dress I posted and the one you did?

Wanton sex on the photocopier. Sounds fun. Maybe I need to wear sleeveless dresses and tops to work from now on.

Sleeveless clothing is against the dress code at the college I work at. It's considered unprofessional and inappropriate.

I would still put a work jacket over all these dresses however. It's very useful in all kinds of ways and also you can put all your pencils and other stuff in the pockets justl ike men can!

I hope for her sake, no one reveals a bare ankle in front of her!

@Backenette I came into this thread specifically to make that joke. I am fucking LIVID!

It also depends how amazing your arms are. Michelle Obama's looked like she meant business!

I wouldn't have a problem with arms, but I do think armpits are a touch unprofessional. In the same way I wouldn't wear a short skirt with bare legs to give a big work presentation, I wouldn't wear a sleeveless top if I was going to be waving my arms about and flashing my armpits. Sitting in an office, fine, but not if I was going to an interview or presenting.

Sleeveless dresses are inappropriate for a professional work environment. I wouldn’t tolerate a sleeveless man nor so a woman.