is there anything that could reconcile you to Brexit?

[RebeccaWithTheGoodHair]

AIBU to think Boris Johnson's latest initiative is just another exercise in words that mean nothing? What does stuff like 'hope not fear' actually mean?

I want to write to my MP (again) but I'm running out of ways to ask him to explain what the actual fuck any of it means. He just bats me back and says to read Hansard and that the PM is completely clear but I can't make head nor tail of what their plans are and how they then plan to get the EU to agree to them.

I genuinely now want to be reconciled (whatever that means) but AIBU to think there can't be any reconciliation because no-one will say anything other than what they want to happen with no explanation of what will happen in the real world.

I fucking hate this, the whole mess of it and the fact it's now being led by bloody hardline Tories who think repeating that we need 'get over it' is some kind of response to valid concerns. Get over what? What does any of it mean.

Nothing will reconcile me to Brexit. It’s like being strapped to a roller coaster against my will and setting off at high speed knowing that track is missing half way along and we’re going to go flying into the abyss.

It’s going to be an utter disaster and will harm to prospects of your young people for generations to come.

If we had a capable government in charge of brexit, realising it can't be in the hands of just a few individuals, then we might be in with a chance.

I wasn’t defending Johnson, merely fact-checking. As it happens my partner also renounced, due to said Draconian expat citizens tax obligations (though it’s best you don’t give that as the reason when you're filling out the forms…)

If Brexit destroys Boris Johnson, that would be something, I suppose.

I could be wrong but I think renouncing his USA citizenship was more to do with his quest to become prime minister - happy to be corrected though.
As for the original AIBU, nothing will reconcile me to this shit show. And the schadenfreude on it being the brexit voting areas that will be worse hit is bitter sweet.

wherewithal 😂😂 no, probably best not to phrase it that way.

No never. I can't even elaborate or I will be ranting for pages...

The only people I know would voted for Brexit did so because they were fed up with austerity and felt it couldn't get worse

There is always further to fall, don’t take any pleasure from that though.

If the leave campaign's key promises turned out to be true (ie that we'd be better, or at least no worse, off) then I'd happily eat a skipload of humble pie and get fully on board.

I won't be holding my breath waiting for the above to happen.

I presume that most of those on this thread wishing ill on the brexit
voting areas haven't been further north than watford gap recently.
Life in the prosperous booming south east is very different to that in one of the economically declining former mill towns just outside manchester that have been ravaged by austerity. I know quite a few leave voters up here who naively viewed the referendum as a way of articulating their anger and frustration at cameron et al by opposing the status quo. I appreciate that the EU wasn't to blame for our own government's policies but most people are so politically unaware or disengaged they'll believe anything they're told in the msm.

"Johnson renounced his US citizenship last year."

Oh good! About bloody time!

And Murdoch et al.? Any sign of them doing the same? Or are we still in thrall to non-British interests dictating what's good for Britain?

I don't know about "reconciled" but at least it would be a silver lining if Johnson, Rees-Mogg and all these other clueless muppets are seen to fail miserably and utterly and as a result we start questioning whether self-assured self-fancying wealthy politicians are really all they're cracking themselves up to be. Shame it has to come at the cost of my pension.

If we were to join EFTA and we had a proper judge-led public inquiry into the referendum campaign, followed by rolling heads, then I might be reconciled to it.

Norway model. I don't like Brexit, but I could be ok with Norway model. That should have been put on the table as the indefinite transition arrangement with parties to then campaign on any further tweaks (or not).

I'm annoyed with May for making it all seem plausible. Any one of the other muppets in charge (so-called Brexit leaders, Davis, Fox, Gove, Johnson, etc) would have made such a hash of Brexit that the public would be clamouring for another Referendum to try to reverse this mess.