What's with all these transgender threads?!

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No less than 7 on my active threads?? Is it just me who in real life hasn't encountered any transgender people?? And coming from the professional background that I'm in, I see a pretty varied side of life

Am I missing out on something here??

I was talking about a specific person who would have been ripe for mermaids had they been about on the 1970s. 1+1 isn’t 2 here.

I do realise that girls who like cars arent gay. I had a pedal car racer ntseld.

Does this read as hate speech, too?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/18/identity-issue-our-age-talk-more-honestly-trans-women

Hermes, 98% if violence against women is carried out by men.

Lesbians are not the problem here.

Except that men are responsible for far more sexual harassment and sex and violent crime than men, Hermes. So try again.

Than women!

hermesconrad it's a little bit more than 'sexual preference'. No one really cares if transexual people who have fully transitioned, and are committed to living their lives as close to that of a woman's as pisdibke. After all, those people have been using women's toilets for years. People are concerned about self ID which in effect would mean any man s free to use the women's toilets. Including the nasty ones.
If that doesn't concern you, then fine. Other people don't feel that mixed sex facilities are safe or private enough. Why shouldn't they be entitled to say so?

Are transgender issues really that relevant to parenting? Is Mumsnet no longer a parenting forum? 🤔

Science facilitating a man to breastfeed is a parenting issue.

diodati most things are relevant to parenting. No one 'parents' in a vacuum. Some posters have children who are transitioning , others might be concerned about their teenage daughter's safety and privacy. There are a variety of reasons why parents might want to discuss this issue, along with nany other issues.

Transgenderism has got nothing to do with sexual preference.

I wish people would stop lumping it in with the struggle for gay and civil rights. It's insulting.

All issues are relevant to parenting, as those of us who have children are worried for the world we are bringing them up in. However, Mumsnet is not exclusively for or used by parents.

A lot of posters seem to be confusing transexual with transgender.

A proposed change in the law will leave allow any man to declare himself a woman, without hormone therapy or surgery.

This would be a sexual predators' paradise.

Mumsnet started out as a parenting forum but has grown into something more than that.

Are transgender issues really that relevant to parenting?

Yes.

These are referral rates for Tavistock childrens gender identity clinic.

Relevance to parenting? I have daughters. I would hope to find the support of other concerned parents here.

If you are not concerned then you haven't understood what a change in the law will bring.

diodati yes, it's relevant. I raised my daughter to be gender non conforming and now she is under pressure to come out as a boy, or non binary. She like girls and it's deeply unfashionable to be a lesbian so I worry about her every single day. Sex stereotypes are being pushed more and more and girls are losing their voices in the lgb community which are now largely run by trans identified males.

@theaveragewife ah yes, that ONE lady who pretended to be black. No, that's not what I meant. I meant the hateful anti-trans comments. Why not talk about gays that way? Or Muslims? Don't think those threads would stay up for long.

Find me an anti-trans comment.

Have you actually looked at terfisaslur.com ??

TellsEveryone. No, to me, that is a transwoman. I would not expect a transwoman to be given access to any woman spaces, be it if they decide to look feminine or not.

There are no anti-trans comments here.

There are mothers concerned about a very loud subset of men who have had no surgery or hormone therapy and call themselves lesbians. They are currently trying to get the right to be identified in law as women based on self-declaration.

TellsEveryone. No, to me, that is a transwoman. I would not expect a transwoman to be given access to any woman spaces, be it if they decide to look feminine or not.

Talk me through the thought process that lead you to believe that please. Was it the driving licence? Or the words under their name? Or what?

A girl in the 1970s - plays with trucks, action men, space ships. Loves robots. Only wears trousers, no skirts. In role play takes on a boys persona. Parents let her get in with it.

Well actually such a girl, although generally accepted till puberty, was still labelled a "tomboy" and a boy who liked dresses and makeup as a "big girl's blouse".

This kind of thinking - labelling a girl who likes trucks as not "girly", or a boy who likes makeup as "not a real boy" is what has led to this sorry state of affairs where kids believe that to be who you are you need to "jump ship".

Feminists always fought against that kind of crap but were told they were over-reacting.

Ok I’ll call it before you do...

The other was chatted up by a mate when v drunk didn’t realise until later 🤣 - punched said bloke in a dress in the face.

That’s the first transphobic comment I’ve seen on mumsnet.

Don't talk about Ian Huntly? #nodebate? Is that because everyone on both sides can see clearly with a real life example how self ID has the potential to be dangerous to woman but TRAs don't have an answer to it?

If you read the Hanbah Mouncy thread there are users openly admitting they are transphobic
Thats probably because people now see through the meaning and use of the word 'transphobic' as a means of silencing opinions and logical facts, and therefore don't care if it's applied to them.