To think that inducing lactation in a man with illegal drugs is not the best way to feed a newborn?

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www.romper.com/p/a-transgender-woman-has-exclusively-breastfed-her-baby-its-a-dream-come-true-8146751/amp?__twitter_impression=true
This is child abuse not a scientific breakthrough. For 6 weeks that baby was fed a mix of artificial hormones and banned medication to validate the gender identity of a man.

The hormones taken to induce lactation mimic those produced through pregnancy. They are safe to take. Will not harm babies.

But this person wasn't just taking domperidone, but a whole range of stuff.

This affects you how, OP?

Where do I sign my husband up for our next kid! No more looking at his useless man nipples in the middle of the night.

Seriously though, I'm no dr and I'm guessing many of you aren't either. Yes it is not approved by FDA but it is approved in Canada and UK and other parts of the world. How can some of you know that this mother was bullied into not breastfeeding - you know them? Of course you don't. Maybe she just didn't want to.
A lot of you are also quoting that women don't get support for breastfeeding - this drug is one method that is used and you are all just slaying it. Yes it may have side effects I don't know enough to be sure. If you read the actual journal, not the media print. It says that it is not recommended by FDA for breastfeeding as effects are not known. This is also the case for many drugs that people take in pregnancy and while breastfeeding. In fact it says that for the antihistamine I took during pregnancy. If there were any known cases of having an effect on Baby or pregnancy with a drug it is highlighted. This is something that is always reported on (I have been told by many drs before taking my antihistamine). In addition no legit dr is going to undertake unsafe practice and then publish it to be peer reviewed with potential for being struck of. Eg MMR
This hunt and attack on trans people is actually disgusting. Yes I get and share the concerns for someone being able to request to be treated by female - but we can all request someone else as it is, even if it's already a female we just don't like.i get the athletics thing as well, but it is similar scenario to amputees like Oscar pistoris competing with able bodied and having an advantage. I think people just need to be careful on voicing their concerns, valid concerns and not turning it into a witch hunt. People are not hearing your concerns due to the witch hunt. These concerns are legit concerns and can be worked around but there is no call for the transphobia that goes with it. Did you know 48% of trans people try to commit suicide. This witch hunt by mumsnet people is not going to help those stats. It's real peoples lives, it's not an easy life and not one anyone would choose by choice. (Well the majority anyway)
Also to declare: I do not know any trans but have Gay friends.

@hazeyjane but it's not squandering money on research for transgender men- it's the same hormones required for anyone to feed. It's just by giving birth naturally that these hormones are released. So this research will apply to any female or male wishing to breastfeed.

What drugs in this mix are illegal? Domperidone is used all the time in the UK.

I’ve definitely read somewhere about a man (in Asia?) breastfeeding his child because the mother had died.

I don’t remember any more details - it was a few years ago - so I don’t know how successful it was, but it was clearly unusual enough that it warranted an article.

Of course that father somehow achieved the feat without the use of drugs and because he was in a desperate situation.

Did you know 48% of trans people try to commit suicide

This statistic is complete bunkum.

I've read that article too joey. Really interesting article but can't remember where I read it now either

I'm a lesbian whose breastfeeding counsellor offered to help my dp breastfeed as well. Our response was, "Ooh no, seems a bit odd and fetishistic, we'll just keep it nature's way, thanks".

I'm also an adoptive mother, who once watched a TV documentary about an American who adopted from China, who went to huge lengths to 'breastfeed' this toddler from the first day she met her, wearing some device involving bottles and tubes. I thought, "Hell no, that is a toddler who has no experience of breastfeeding, why are you forcing this experience on her when you are still a stranger to her?"

I breastfed my first child for nearly two years, and occasionally did get comments about extended bf being for the parents' benefit, not the child's. I was about that, but in the two examples I've given above it was really true, and it's no less true for the trans parent. Shocking that the doctors actively colluded with this fetishisation of biological motherhood.

Because I think that baby's needs are taking second place to the gender identity of one of it's parents gnothergnu and framing this as progressive is not ok.

This whole thing is just a totally unnecessary vanity project. It's just a 'look how womanly I am' show.

Well shit. I clearly didn’t try hard enough to BF. Clearly it does seem that literally anyone can do it

Sadie very few people can't bf but the support in the UK is very poor and most people don't get adequate support when they need it. Furthermore society is set up in way now that makes bf harder

Men can't breastfeed. Its fucking child abuse. Using a child to satisfy a fetish is despicable.

Just to clarify I mean it's not about a mum not trying hard enough it's about the lack of support when mum wants to bf and isn't supported enough so has to move to formula. That's not fair. Support should be better from midwives, doctors, health visitors and other lactation agencies so that those who want to bf can

What we need is more support for mothers, not people indulging this vanity project.

It's not an either/or. You could just as easily say that of cosmetic surgery, or indeed any sort of medical treatment that simply improves lives rather than treating the problem in question. It's not as if all medical research into support for mothers has come to an end to facilitate this, is it?

Biology bf isn't sexual, it certainly isn't something someone does as a fetish. If a male is after a quick thrill he's going to find out pretty quick that bf is painful to get established, time consuming and definitely not sexual

Its also despicable that some people shout transphobia when people express concern about things that transpeople are doing, like trying to breastfeed simply in order to validate their own perception of themselves. I thought experimenting on babies was illegal.

Bfing might be sexual to an AGP.

And how do you square that view with the evidence given above that direct donor breastfeeding is better than formula feeding, OP?

Oh FFS, if this woman has produced enough milk to actually exclusively breastfeed a baby, it's probably fine. I would have loved my DH to take some of these pills so he could feed the baby a zillion times in the night for a change as opposed to snoring happily in the spare room.

It is weird. What about the hormones taken by the trans woman, would they not affect the baby?

direct donor breastfeeding is better than formula feeding, OP?

I’d hazard a guess that the research into this assumed that the owner of the breasts would be a female.

Not a man.

bf1000 this breastfeeding parent has a penis. Fetish is definitely a possibility.

confuddledconfudle, thank you! You are the voice of reason.