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As far as Nunes can tell, none of us have even met with Trump

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PerkingFaintly · 05/02/2018 22:23

Devin Nunes Gets A Pretty Basic Fact Wrong In Defending His Memo
Nunes suggested that Donald Trump had never met with George Papadopoulos. There's a photo of them sitting at the same table.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/devin-nunes-memo_us_5a788b57e4b01fe513a60603

And we certainly didn't have a national security meeting right here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3150505-The-one-in-which-Trump-orders-his-staff-to-fire-Mueller-and-they-give-him-the-finger?pg=1

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OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 13/02/2018 17:25

Not so happy news:

Kenneth P. Vogel
@kenvogel
The Trump administration is proposing to save billions in the coming years by giving low-income families a box of government-picked, nonperishable foods every month instead of food stamps. Mulvaney called it a “@BlueApron-type program.”

www.politico.com/story/2018/02/12/food-stamps-trump-administration-343245

Daniel Dale
@ddale8
It's strange how willing headline writers can be to accept the White House's comically absurd framing, like their calling a monthly box of packaged cheap food that is nothing like Blue Apron a "Blue Apron-type program."

And

Mrs. Whatsit
@MrsWhatsit1
On this whole "the government will send SNAP recipients a box of the food we think you should eat," don't forget that FEMA boxes to Hurricane Maria survivors in Puerto Rico contained Vienna sausages, Skittles, and those crap orange peanut butter crackers. Not exactly nutritious.

And

Proposed Food Stamp Cuts Would Hit Military Families

www.military.com/daily-news/2017/05/24/proposed-food-stamp-cuts-would-hit-military-families.html

And

Annie Lowrey‏Verified account
@AnnieLowrey

  1. What if you don't receive your box one month?
  2. What if you're homeless?
  3. What if you don't have a place to receive mail?
  4. What if you move frequently?
  5. What if you have allergies?
  6. What if the box gets wet, or animals get into it?
  7. What if your kid is a fussy eater?
  8. What if you're a fussy eater?
  9. What about the end of the month?
10. Will the value be the same? 11. What about the stores in your town? 12. What about fresh fruits and veggies? 13. What if you don't have electricity or gas to cook? 14. Why? 15. No, really, why? What problem does this solve? 16. Is the value of the box the same as the value of the SNAP? 17. Okay, but isn't the value of the box lower, given fungibility and all that? 18. Did folks on SNAP ask for this? 19. Did anti-hunger advocates? 20. Schools? Parents? Kids themselves? Social workers? Businesses? Grocery stores? 21. Do you have studies showing that such boxes would actually reduce hunger? 22. At what cost? 23. Any studies showing it's more cost-effective than SNAP? 24. What about the cost of unwinding SNAP, as-is? 25. What about the time-cost of switching over, for low-income families? 26. Who makes the boxes? 27. Who decides what goes in the boxes? 28. What about packaging waste? 29. What's the overhead cost? 30. What role do states have in SNAP? 31. Should states be able to opt out? 32. Should families be able to opt out? 33. Any pilots of this program? Anywhere? 34. Have you looked at studies of ration systems? 35. What's more important: cost or calories? 36. Are you going to aim for a calorie count? 37. Any sense of the direct impact on nutrition? 38. Any doctors consulted on the nutrition impact? 39. Anything else in the box other than food? 40. Do poor folks deserve to get to choose their own food? 41. Do folks receiving government assistance deserve to get to choose their own food? 42. Should kids with poor parents be made more aware of their poverty? 43. How about their classmates? 44. Should there be religious exemptions? 45. How about cultural exemptions? Should all people have to eat the same food? 46. Should the boxes be the same regionally? What about location-based cost differentials? 47. Have you tried a box yourself? 48. What if you're in an abusive relationship? Can you just get SNAP then, so it is easier to leave? 49. What about vegetarians and vegans? What about folks on a diet? 50. What about kids with medically prescribed diets? 51. Do you get a dollar value per kid, or a calorie value? 52. More calories for older kids? 53. Does the box change based on family composition? 54. Won't this food be similar to what's offered at food banks? Does that matter? 55. Will companies be able to lobby to change the contents of the boxes? 56. Will the government accept free food from companies? 57. Will the government put food samples in the boxes? 58. How often will the government re-evaluate the food and calorie counts? 57. What happens during hurricanes? Snowstorms? 58. What happens if shipping costs go up? 59. Will you provide more food during school vacations? 60. Should folks in remote areas get more food? Folks in high-cost areas?
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 13/02/2018 17:31

Assorted pic 'n' mix:

Andrew S. Weiss‏
@andrewsweiss
Nothing to see here! New global threat briefing by Intel Community says Trump's abandonment of liberal international order is playing straight into Russia and China's hands www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Testimonies/2018-ATA---Unclassified-SSCI.pdf

Ned Price
@nedprice
I'm hard pressed to think of a direr warning from the Intelligence Community regarding Washington's own policy. A pretty stunning assessment of the administration's foreign policy folly.

And

Manu Raju
‏*@mkraju*
Dan Coats just warned that the national debt is “unsustainable” and a “dire threat” to national security. This after Trump just signed $300B budget hike and Trump budget released would spike deficit further

And

Jill Lawrence
@JillDLawrence
.@ThePlumLineGS riffs on Rachel Brand and @USATODAY column by @NormEisen and @VBass in this piece on how Republicans could help Trump constrain #RobertMueller - with no fingerprints

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/02/13/how-republicans-could-help-trump-constrain-mueller-with-no-fingerprints/?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.fe3b363a9c8e

And

Jennifer Valentino-DeVries
@jenvalentino
In December, the FEC said federal political ads on Facebook need to comply with regulations and say who paid for them. So we checked hundreds of ads to see if they followed the rules.

Most didn’t.

www.propublica.org/article/i-approved-this-facebook-message-but-you-dont-know-that

And

Julian Assange 'Thinks He Is Above The Law', Judge Says As She Rules Arrest Warrant Should Stand

He 'wants justice only if it goes in his favour,' judge says.

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/julian-assange-embassy-warrant_uk_5a82a177e4b01467fcf0ed3b

James Ball
@jamesrbuk
Here is the full – scathing – judge's ruling on Assange's appeal against his arrest warrant files.acrobat.com/a/preview/8bc0fc51-7391-4c61-8473-2c69ac10f8e4

And

Natasha Bertrand
@NatashaBertrand
Today is the deadline for Steve Bannon to comply with House Intel's subpoena. HPSCI gave him a week from last Tuesday to testify (again).

As far as Nunes can tell, none of us have even met with Trump
OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 13/02/2018 17:41

More on Porter:

Brooke Baldwin
@BrookeBCNN
BREAKING -- @kaitlancollins is reporting that just before Rob Porter resigned amid allegations of spouse abuse, the White House was considering PROMOTING him to Deputy Chief of Staff. #CNN

Also

FBI Director Defends Handling of Background Check of Former Trump Aide

Christopher Wray tells Senate committee that agency ‘administratively closed’ file on Rob Porter, contradicting White House claim that probe was ongoing

www.wsj.com/articles/fbi-director-defends-handling-of-background-check-of-former-trump-aide-1518542822

[...]In January, the FBI “administratively closed” Mr. Porter’s file, Mr. Wray said. Earlier this month, the agency received “some additional information, and we passed that on as well,” he said. Mr. Porter didn’t receive a permanent national security clearance, according to White House officials.

“I’m quite confident that in this particular instance, the FBI followed existing protocols,” Mr. Wray added.

The FBI is responsible for conducting background checks on White House officials, but the decision on whether to issue a clearance rests with the White House.

Mr. Wray’s timeline strayed from the sequence of events offered by White House officials, who have said repeatedly in recent days that the FBI’s investigation into Mr. Porter was “ongoing.”

The White House has sought to shift the focus away from its handling of domestic-abuse allegations against Mr. Porter, facing criticism for allowing the aide to remain in his influential position inside the president’s inner circle.

Asked on Monday if the White House should have handled Mr. Porter’s situation any differently, Chief of Staff John Kelly said, “No.”

“It was all done right,” Mr. Kelly said in a brief interview.

White House spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Monday that the administration was following a “process that has been used for decades” to grant national security clearances, and that it would be appropriate to review the FBI’s background check process.

lionheart · 13/02/2018 18:38

Amy Siskind

Verified account

@Amy_Siskind

This is actually frightening that our intelligence heads are publicly telling us Russia is seeking to interfere with our election and democracy, while Trump still fails to acknowledge it, and the Republicans are silent and therefore complicit in foreign interference.

lionheart · 13/02/2018 21:38

'The chief of staff has been left to shoulder the blame over the failure to remove the former staff secretary, who held only an interim security clearance.'

www.politico.com/story/2018/02/13/kelly-porters-scandal-white-house-407242

AcrossthePond55 · 13/02/2018 21:45

There's just so much happening I can't keep up!!! Between Porter and all the (usual) insanity and bullshit coming from the WH it's hard to stay on top of things!

Am I alone in thinking hoping that our wonderful Mr Mueller has 'gone to ground' a wee bit? Makes me wonder how he's using all this other news that's on the forefront to move quietly forward without people Scrotus really noticing what he's doing.

I, on the other hand, am leaving tomorrow to commune with nature at Yosemite. Campfires and hot cocoa with schnapps. And a heated caravan with cell and wifi. Yep, nature at it's best.

cozietoesie · 13/02/2018 21:47

Hot cocoa with schnapps? Grin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 13/02/2018 21:53

That sounds perfect Across!
Here it's damp, dull and alcoholic-ly dry! (That's until I get to the off-licence for more Wine and Gin)

lionheart · 13/02/2018 21:53

I like the cut of your jib there Across.

I like the Mueller silence.

lionheart · 13/02/2018 21:58

Richard Blumenthal

Verified account

@SenBlumenthal

White House must disclose to Congress 30 to 40 top-level Presidential staff who still have only interim security clearances - failed to be deemed trustworthy a full year into this Administration - yet given access to classified secret information.

cozietoesie · 13/02/2018 21:59

So do I actually. Smile

And I doubt it means that they're sitting on chaise-longues sipping juleps.

lionheart · 13/02/2018 22:00

'Former White House staff secretary Rob Porter reportedly blamed his ex-wife's black eye on a fall while defending himself against abuse allegations in an off-the-record meeting with four journalists last week.'

thehill.com/homenews/administration/373689-rob-porter-claimed-ex-wifes-black-eye-was-due-to-a-fall-report?__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=

cozietoesie · 13/02/2018 22:01

Oh Yeah.?

What did she fall on?

TheNorthWestPawsage · 13/02/2018 22:31
Hmm Hannity deletes article and tweet claiming Obama’s portrait had "secret sperm" in it. seriously twitter.com/passantino/status/963537081392746496
cozietoesie · 13/02/2018 22:31

Is that nationwide, though, lion?

lionheart · 13/02/2018 22:46

Yes. It's the jump that is so strikng though.

lionheart · 13/02/2018 22:47

*striking.

lionheart · 13/02/2018 23:05

'She was a wake-up call to everyone who was concerned about the future of public education.'

www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/betsy-devos-education-one-year_us_5a821ba6e4b0892a03520700

AcrossthePond55 · 13/02/2018 23:08

Oh Yeah.? What did she fall on?

Why, his fist, cozie. She 'fell' on his fist.

Schnapps is yummy with cocoa. Peppermint schnapps, apricot schnapps, cinnamon schnapps, cherry schnapps, Ribena Schnapps. Wait. Strike that last one!

cozietoesie · 13/02/2018 23:43

Cocoa and cherry schnapps. Wow!

It's just that when you fall, that's a very odd place to have a bruise like that. Very odd.