As far as Nunes can tell, none of us have even met with Trump

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Devin Nunes Gets A Pretty Basic Fact Wrong In Defending His Memo
Nunes suggested that Donald Trump had never met with George Papadopoulos. There's a photo of them sitting at the same table.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/devin-nunes-memo_us_5a788b57e4b01fe513a60603

And we certainly didn't have a national security meeting right here:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3150505-The-one-in-which-Trump-orders-his-staff-to-fire-Mueller-and-they-give-him-the-finger?pg=1

I am a longtime MNetter and occasional poster on this thread. I have something i want to say on the back of the shootings in Florida which i am totally aware will out me considerably (well narrow me down to a few any way) and i will post it on this thread as i think it is possible this is a bit of a niche users thread.

In other threads i sometimes mention that i have lost a child but i never give details. What i want to say is that i lost my DD in the Dunblane Primary shootings in 1996. I campaigned with many others for tighter guns laws and we managed to get changes made here in the UK. I am very proud of this.

I also went to Washington in 2000 with 2 other bereaved mums and joined the Million Moms March. Here is the BBC news coverage from then. (Yes i am one of the women in that picture!). Bill Clinton was the president then and supported the march. But nothing at all has changed in that time - absolutely nothing. It is so frustrating that lives continue to be devastated in this way when changes could be made. However i feel there is a wind of change coming. The surviving pupils in this school appear to be outspoken and determined to effect change. I want to be able to support them in some way but i don't know how. What can be done? I have kept a very low profile over the years. I don't want to stand up and start spouting off, but i want to show my support to the young people in this community and encourage them to keep fighting.

I really just wanted to write this down and put it out there. What can I/we do?

The Snowdrop Campaign?

I don't know, blue. I guess you could get in touch with everytown.org and offer your services? As a start.

Yes Cozie. It was the Snowdrop campaign. I have looked at that Everytown site and I don't bring it is what I want. But I have found the girl who has gone viral on Twitter and I might send her a message of support just to encourage her and her friends to keep on speaking out.

Re Harry & Meghan; Trump will rationalize in his pea brain that well, it isn't a STATE wedding so he would have declined anyway. Besides they wouldn't have seated him next Her Maj so it's not worthy of him. Such a snub to The RF. They must be bigly sad.

Melania will be posting on AIBU forthwith. "Should I dump my DH? Because of him I'm not being invited anywhere!"

bluesky I want to thank you for taking the time in your grief to come here and stand with US moms and taking part in the MMM.

I think things are changing but not fast enough. Using my DH, who has always been 'pro 2nd Amendment' although not a right wing gun nut, as a bellwether they are changing. He now supports a total ban on all handguns and semi- and automatic long guns. This is something I thought would never happen. He now hates the NRA with a passion.

There is hope.

I am so sorry bluesky.

I think they would welcome anything you have to say.

bluesky I feel helpless that there seems nothing that we can do here that may help change gun laws in the US. But you have my eternal thanks for doing what you did to help change gun laws in the U.K. My only regret is that you and the other Dunblane families had to suffer the loss of a child for this to happen.

So so sorry for your loss bluesky it must be so heartbreaking when nothing changes after these shootings considering the change that was achieved by you and others after Dunblane. I really hope that this is the one that changes that.

Thanks all. I really hope there are significant changes after this shooting. It's very frustrating not being able to do anything from side of the pond.

bluesky I am so sorry for your loss, years don't change a loss, it's still there. Much respect to you for all you have done.

As far as what can be done now, I can only suggest Twitter. There is a lot of posts by the young pupils who were there at that school, and I am retweeting as much as I can. Some are very eloquent in what they say and every change I get I retweet. There's going to be a school walk out on March 14th for 17 minutes, all organised on Twitter. Here are the details

*every chance I get (not change)

Blue the campaign of you and other parents after Dunblane and the change in laws that caused is what should happen in any civilised country that finds this horror happening on their soil. It is proof that things can change and that changes in gun law can stop more deaths. I think you just standing and saying, 'look, change can happen and it does work', is a hugely powerful message and one that needs to held up again and again to those that oppose gun control in America.

We are really privileged to have you posting on here Bluesky.
You could try contacting your local bbc news and see if they can help you to get a message of support and solidarity out there?

I agree OYBBK. What a wealth of thoughts from people.

There is also this group.

momsdemandaction.org/about/

www.politicususa.com/2018/02/16/emotional-rachel-maddow-proclaims-somebody-finally-defending-us-russia.html

Maddow said, “This indictment today was a surprise in so many ways like other indictment days had surprises. The biggest surprise I had after covering this story so closely for this whole freaking year now, the surprise for me personally was hearing these charges and hearing what they were charging the Russians for, was the first time that I felt like finally, finally for the first time since we realized this was happening, finally it feels like someone is defending us and going after them. And taking seriously what they did and showing not incidentally, showing what this adversary is designed for and capable of and still working on for our election this year. Finally, somebody is defending us and taking it seriously and doing something about it. That alone for me today is the biggest shock.”

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'Trump lost the narrative when the Porter scandal broke last week, and hasn't regained it yet after non-stop events this week. He intuitively knows he needs to control the narrative-it's a pattern throughout. Watch for shiny coins coming our way soon!'

For anyone who is interested. The Lawfare take.

The latest Mueller Indictment

We are going to need a shiny new thread.

Away you go, lion.

www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/opinion/trump-russians-indictments-elections.html

www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/outside-nra-headquarters-hundreds-gather-in-vigil-and-protest/2018/02/17/5f59bde4-138e-11e8-9065-e55346f6de81_story.html?utm_term=.2095bc7b0484

Thanks, lion.

It occurred to me last night that Mr M's team may be getting themselves a job for life?

“We won’t let the tragedy be in vain, and we won’t let the rest of the country just move on.”