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the cost of getting your child to Uni!

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Ineedsharesintravelodge · 05/02/2018 12:40

Not so much an AIBU, just looking for some advice really. I have name changed for this, as I have a few friends & relatives who are on Mumsnet also. Sorry that this is long!!

My 18 year old has been looking at specific degree courses (don't want to say what, as quite outing) and she has applied for a few through UCAS and one independently, but I am finding the cost of getting her to the interviews extortionate. Most of the Universities she has applied for are 4-6 hours travelling distance away, and without gong into details about her course, she would be expected to stay at the Uni for 5-6 hrs on the day of the interview as there are several parts to the interview. As a non-driver this entails mostly two overnight stays per interview - one on the way there and one on the way back as there aren't any trains to get us there in time on the same day, or to get us back to our small northern town afterwards on the same day. Most of the Unis that she has applied to are down south, so even budget hotel lines can be fairly expensive, depending on the day and area. None of the interviews can be changed as these are mostly the last dates available, and none are consecutive so we can't take advantage of attending one the day after another.

I have priced it up for her to travel alone (daunting for a just 18 yr old from a small rural northern town - journeys are up to / 5 train changes mostly via London) and by the time we have used our railcard it doesn't make much of a price difference, and the hotels seem to charge around the same for 1 or 2 people in a room so it makes more sense for us both to go so she has the reassurance about the travel. We don't have anyone to ask who could drive her there instead, (her dad wont take time off work for this, nor will he contribute anything towards the cost. He feels he has done his part as he contributed 25% of the cost of attending a Uni open day, of which she has only been to one ).

After working it out, I have estimated that each trip will cost in the region of £250 - £350, and that is staying at cheapest hotels, travelling at cheapest time of the day whenever possible to fit in around the timing of the interview. All of the interview dates are within a 3 week window in March - how the heck am I supposed to afford it, I am a single parent on a low income, and although I have been putting some money away towards this (as and when I could afford it) it won't even cover one of the trips.

I just don't know what to do.

Do I tell her that I can't afford it, and that she can't go? Do I near bankrupt myself, by borrowing money from my household bills to take her? The amount that I am needing to find by March (or preferably before then, to get the cheapest hotel & train rates) could take me years to pay off / re juggle household bills up to date.
Do we risk it and only attend one or two? (what then, if she is offered a place at neither, and she has missed the other interviews?)
Or just go to her first couple of choice interviews but these have more demand for places?
We have discussed the possibility of not attending later interviews if she is offered a place at an earlier one, but these are not her first choice Unis within the first few interviews, and ideally we would have travel booked asap for the best prices, as leaving it until the week before to book is so expensive.
It's a dilemma. Please don't say, I should have saved for this - I have done my best, but money in our house is very tight and we only have a little disposable income each month. Just want some ideas, suggestions on the best thing to do in this situation!

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MedSchoolRat · 05/02/2018 20:07

I'm involved in medicine interviews, we don't have them for 5-6 hours. They'd be right to sue us for cruelty if we did try to keep them performing so long. I think maybe interview consumes of the candidate's time, about 100 minutes in total. (Arrival, wait, pep talk, MMIs, pep talk, release).

I worked out (back of envelope) that each full interview day (about 50 candidates) costs ~ £2000.

Bastardingcough · 05/02/2018 20:13

Haven't RTWFT but the YHA often has sites near universities. Beds in shared dorms from £12, private rooms are good value too

LoniceraJaponica · 05/02/2018 20:13

Any tips MedSchoolRat?

Godowneasy · 05/02/2018 20:22

Which courses required 5-6 hours of interviews? That's crazy. What Uni dept. can afford all that staff time?!!

ALL of my daughter's interviews at Conservatoires for her degree course were all day, as she had to audition as well. Most started at 8.30am and finished at about 4pm.

TalkinPeace · 05/02/2018 20:25

crabbypatty
Do you judge your own students if they get parents to go to Uni visits with them?
Or have they learned not to tell you what they do?

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 05/02/2018 20:28

Wow I am truly amazed crabby that you are involved with that age group.

Dipitydoda · 05/02/2018 20:34

Op, as your Dd seems to suffer quite badly from anxiety/depression is now the right time for her to be moving so far away from you and your support? University can be very isolating in the first few weeks, can she not defer her entry and take some time out to get well?

Headofthehive55 · 05/02/2018 20:43

I think parents go because they want a day out. Nothing wrong in that, but I wanted my offspring to be independent and not need me to be there. I think it's really sad that parents are attending these days.

I do get what crabby is saying and do think some children are driven around - sheltered from the world - so they never need to do it themselves. We know a few that have even bought houses for their uni students so they are always under the umbrella of mum and dad and don't need to deal with landlords. One we knew couldn't even take a bus at 18 as he had never done that before.

I also think I would have swayed her to a different uni - we like slightly different things and that would have been unfair.

Thecrabbypatty · 05/02/2018 20:49

Talkinpeace and ThroughThickAndThin01you two are the ones being judgemental at this point. I am fortunate enough to teach at a deprived school full of extremely bright and keen young people. Many of them do not have the sort of family life that allows their parents to take days off all over the place because they can't afford to, and in some heartbreaking cases students who parents don't care or think they are able enough or to go to uni at all. I encourage independence and self belief to help them achieve their goals, even if they have to do it on their own. So yes the judgement is on you because its probably one of my "poor unloved students you see hanging around on their own" at open days because their parents can't afford to go. They weren't so easy to spot years ago when everyone was in the same boat and everyone went on their own. But please don't feel sorry for them, they are rocking it and at least had the guts to do it.

TalkinPeace · 05/02/2018 20:50

I think it's really sad that parents are attending these days.
FFS parents were going along when I was looking at Unis in the early 80's
what's with all the pearl clutching historical revisionism?

bruffin · 05/02/2018 20:59

Crabbypatty
Just because parents come doesnt mean their is not 8ndependent. We went to ds opwn days, all a huge novty to us as our generation rarely went to uni. He took imself off to australia a few m9nths later.
As i said above dd going to US in june

Headofthehive55 · 05/02/2018 21:00

No, I didn't notice them in the 1980s. None of my friends had parents go.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 05/02/2018 21:02

Mine did in the 1980's. They also dropped me and my stuff off on the first day. Shock horror.

Headofthehive55 · 05/02/2018 21:04

I think you are right and it's often because it's exciting and a novelty for some parents. My DD said it was annoying as she wanted to chat to others on the day - yet saw parents coaching the students and not intergrating at all. She did meet several that were older or had done previous degrees that were going solo and was able to chat to them.

beingsunny · 05/02/2018 21:09

I paid for my own travel, my parents weren't supportive. I worked part time waitressing to pay for my travel to interviews.

Is this an option?

Skiiltan · 05/02/2018 21:10

MedSchoolRat - medicine interviews might not last that long (around an hour is the average for a MMI) but some medical schools expect interview candidates to attend discussions with current students and go on campus tours, and some have additional things to be done on interview day (one has a numeracy test at lunchtime, for example). It's not that unusual for a student to be expected to stay around for 3-4 hours.
I'd imagine that for music and performing arts courses there will be more significant additional activities, and some others might want candidates to produce work under observation rather than present it in a portfolio that they might have got someone else to produce.

Ineedsharesintravelodge · 05/02/2018 21:17

Thanks everyone. I just want to make it clear, that we have been to one open day, and won't be attending any more - just the interviews. I would like to think that I didn't helicopter at the one we went to, I left my daughter to ask any questions that she had and to chat to others and stayed in the background, just taking on board any helpful practical bits of info that she was likely to miss. I certainly won't be hanging around the uni for the day - more like drop her off and meet at the end. I'd like to think that there is a big difference between being supportive and being a complete pain in the backside and being that parent. She doesn't know anybody else going on the same days as her so can't arrange to travel together and I don't think that any of her friends would want a long round trip. They are all busy doing the same for their uni places, and some of the interviews are also on school days.

Regarding taking time off work - yes I will have to take time off, and those hours will have to be made up at some point in the future (due to tight finances) but I have the flexibility to do this because I am self employed. If I wanted to take those days off as unpaid I could, but it makes more sense to take them off as unpaid now and make up the missed days over the following few months. I am lucky that my job allows me to do this.

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mirage937 · 05/02/2018 21:24

If it's medicine can't you only have four applications anyway or at least that use to be the case, I'm not sure how you don't apply through UCAS, is it a foreign uni ?

lljkk · 05/02/2018 21:26

In a Conservoire situation of 5-6-8 hours assessment, how many students are being assessed at once? I am guessing it's like 50 or 100 being assessed together. I suppose the best ones stand out more in the choreography or music production when it's done as a group activity, etc.

bruffin · 05/02/2018 21:28

Depends
For medicine you can only apply for 4 medical degrees plus an alternative course. For courses like OT, nursing and other health related you can apply for 5 through ucas.

Ariela · 05/02/2018 21:31

It is really the last 10-15 years that parents have taken to accompanying their children to interviews. Even open days too were sparsely populated with adults a mere 15-20 years ago..

Do ask at the school what is available to assits with travel costs etc for interviews. Some local parish councils give money, some local charities give money for this - the school should know where and how to access them.

chocolateworshipper · 05/02/2018 21:36

This is purely an idea, but has she looked into degree apprenticeships? They are fairly new, but the employer pays the apprentice a wage as well as paying all tuition fees, and the apprentice still gets a degree at the end (as well as a pretty much guaranteed job at the end).

MedSchoolRat · 05/02/2018 21:42

@LoniceraJaponica, tips how to do well at interview, you mean?

Sometimes another interviewer will have a rant because they are convinced they just heard some pack of porkies made up story. I've got suspicions that a few stories I heard were total lies... And everyone dislikes it when candidates sound very rehearsed.

So: Mean what you say & say what you mean.
Don't talk too much but do actually talk. Some poor folk clam up under pressure, I guess.

LoniceraJaponica · 05/02/2018 21:44

Thank you MedSchoolRat

Thierryhenryneedisaymore · 05/02/2018 21:46

Crabby,

You are teaching and you have also lectured? Really?

What is it with the "must of" instead of "must have". That's not a typo. It's annoying how many people make that mistake but not usually one made by teachers 😂.

My ears are sore listening to you 😂.

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