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the cost of getting your child to Uni!

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Ineedsharesintravelodge · 05/02/2018 12:40

Not so much an AIBU, just looking for some advice really. I have name changed for this, as I have a few friends & relatives who are on Mumsnet also. Sorry that this is long!!

My 18 year old has been looking at specific degree courses (don't want to say what, as quite outing) and she has applied for a few through UCAS and one independently, but I am finding the cost of getting her to the interviews extortionate. Most of the Universities she has applied for are 4-6 hours travelling distance away, and without gong into details about her course, she would be expected to stay at the Uni for 5-6 hrs on the day of the interview as there are several parts to the interview. As a non-driver this entails mostly two overnight stays per interview - one on the way there and one on the way back as there aren't any trains to get us there in time on the same day, or to get us back to our small northern town afterwards on the same day. Most of the Unis that she has applied to are down south, so even budget hotel lines can be fairly expensive, depending on the day and area. None of the interviews can be changed as these are mostly the last dates available, and none are consecutive so we can't take advantage of attending one the day after another.

I have priced it up for her to travel alone (daunting for a just 18 yr old from a small rural northern town - journeys are up to / 5 train changes mostly via London) and by the time we have used our railcard it doesn't make much of a price difference, and the hotels seem to charge around the same for 1 or 2 people in a room so it makes more sense for us both to go so she has the reassurance about the travel. We don't have anyone to ask who could drive her there instead, (her dad wont take time off work for this, nor will he contribute anything towards the cost. He feels he has done his part as he contributed 25% of the cost of attending a Uni open day, of which she has only been to one ).

After working it out, I have estimated that each trip will cost in the region of £250 - £350, and that is staying at cheapest hotels, travelling at cheapest time of the day whenever possible to fit in around the timing of the interview. All of the interview dates are within a 3 week window in March - how the heck am I supposed to afford it, I am a single parent on a low income, and although I have been putting some money away towards this (as and when I could afford it) it won't even cover one of the trips.

I just don't know what to do.

Do I tell her that I can't afford it, and that she can't go? Do I near bankrupt myself, by borrowing money from my household bills to take her? The amount that I am needing to find by March (or preferably before then, to get the cheapest hotel & train rates) could take me years to pay off / re juggle household bills up to date.
Do we risk it and only attend one or two? (what then, if she is offered a place at neither, and she has missed the other interviews?)
Or just go to her first couple of choice interviews but these have more demand for places?
We have discussed the possibility of not attending later interviews if she is offered a place at an earlier one, but these are not her first choice Unis within the first few interviews, and ideally we would have travel booked asap for the best prices, as leaving it until the week before to book is so expensive.
It's a dilemma. Please don't say, I should have saved for this - I have done my best, but money in our house is very tight and we only have a little disposable income each month. Just want some ideas, suggestions on the best thing to do in this situation!

OP posts:
LemonShark · 05/02/2018 17:04

PinguDance Either something has changed a lot in a mere decade, or maybe MN attracts parents who are more likely to get over involved with their DCs lives? 🤷🏻‍♀️

PinguDance · 05/02/2018 17:06

also @petbear - I had such good family support as a teenager that I could get myself to an open day aged 18 and not bat an eyelid. Thx 4 ur pity tho hun.

LemonysSnicket · 05/02/2018 17:07

A 16-25 yo railcard will get her 1/3 off of rail journeys btw

Godowneasy · 05/02/2018 17:11

Lemonshark-"But learning to be an adult isn't about every single thing being as stress free as possible. Sometimes it's about learning to be independent and deal with the difficult emotions that come with that. Going away to uni at 18 is one of those times surely that it's most important to learn to be a grown up confused"

I would say that not everything always has to be a learning opportunity-either emotionally or practically. I think it's important to pick the right times to learn to deal with new situations and/or emotions, and that the actual day of their University interview most certainly isn't the best time to be worrying about travelling to a new place and dealing with multiple train and bus routes and cancellations etc etc.
There's plenty of other opportunities for them to prepare for adulthood and University life once they've actually got their place!

PinguDance · 05/02/2018 17:13

@LemonShark, yes I should think so! Have to remind myself of that - MN is much more intense when it comes to education than it is generally. Also I suspect it has changed now people are paying so much and the stakes appear to be raised. Still it's a sad trend in my opinion. Though I do think OP is in a different position with a child who is suffering from anxiety and depression.

carbuckety · 05/02/2018 17:13

Have you investigated the accommodation offered by the university for open days? We stayed at 2 universities for open days and the rooms were about £25 ( a few years ago) which was manageable. Hotels would have been much more. You could also try the welfare section of the uni for assistance

Trinity36 · 05/02/2018 17:16

I live up north and went to all my open days by myself. Got the train and used to stay in youth hostels. Paid for it all myself. It’s a good chance for her to practice the life skills she will need for uni xx

amicissimma · 05/02/2018 17:17

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carbuckety · 05/02/2018 17:17

Also some universities offer virtual open days which cost nothing

Slartybartfast · 05/02/2018 17:19

we had a cost issue with dd, travelled by coach to the furthest away one.
also were reimbursed.
also the sixth form may reimburse.

someone did suggest to me that only allow her to apply to a uni within reasonable distance. is that something you might both consider?

Hhakuna · 05/02/2018 17:20

what course is it op ? i didnt know you could apply to UK medial degrees outside of UCAS so wondering if its musical theatre as i know those interviews involve long days and a lot of the colleges are London based, in case of dd friend for this her performing arts school supported her as a few of the girls were going or knew others in the area the parents took it in turns
If you post uni or routes you need to take im sure other posters will have experience of them and help you find better deals
is it a case of they make offers soon after the interview and dd could see how the first one or two go before booking the others

SheepyFun · 05/02/2018 17:33

I'd second asking the universities for accommodation - when I had interviews too far away for a day trip, one university gave me one night of free accommodation, and asked an enormous £5 for the second night. This isn't recently, but if you don't ask, you don't know what you might get.

Thecrabbypatty · 05/02/2018 17:56

I think it's outrageous the suggest not going to university open days means that you are an unsupportive parent. 12 years ago it was a mixed bag of parents attending or not, it was cringey to see ADULTS accompanied by their parents. I informed my parents in the morning that I was going to visit a uni that day, and off I drove in the little old banger that I worked hard to pay for, using the driving lessons which I also paid for. My parents waved me off, dad slipped me twenty quid for petrol and they stood at the front door yelling "you go get them girl!"

I picked up my mate en route, we went, asked questions and got chatting at the SU bar over coffee with some of the lecturers afterwards. And yes, of course I went alone to the interview, made friends with older students at the bar and crashed at a hostel that night. And yes I loved uni, and went on to lecture for a few years myself and yes I hate to say it but I always felt sorry for the students with their parents tagging along to interviews and had to banish several from the room itself.

Going to uni isn't about the parents it's about an adult wanting to further study a subject. You cannot hold your adult children to ransom because you may be contributing to the costs, you are helping them to invest in their future not holding a stake in it yourself.

OP Encourage your ADULT child to go for it and surprise herself, it will do wonders for her self esteem.

LemonShark · 05/02/2018 18:10

"Going to uni isn't about the parents it's about an adult wanting to further study a subject. You cannot hold your adult children to ransom because you may be contributing to the costs, you are helping them to invest in their future not holding a stake in it yourself."

Couldn't agree more. I feel genuinely sad for the students who are wrapped in cotton wool and mollycoddled (not accusing OP of that, she seems like a kind mum who can listen to alternative perspectives and do what she feels is best for her child, who had additional needs). It doesn't foster independence, strength or problem solving! It's hard to believe other eighteen year olds travel round the world alone with a rucksack or go to war when you see how ours are often still treated as little kids.

LearnFromThePast · 05/02/2018 18:12

I work at one of the Universities mentioned and I can tell you that roughly 3/4 students that come to interviews come with their parents, or at least one of them.

We will do Skype interviews if needed and will be as flexible as possible e.g it can be cheaper to travel on certain days. In no way would it make a different to our choices if someone asked for funding or help to travel.

Hope that reassures a Little

Snowysky20009 · 05/02/2018 18:13

The 2 degees I done, I was interviewed for both (14 years apart), and there were no parents present at all, on interview days.

On the other hand my ds is going to uni in September. We had to say that he needed to commute as we could not afford for him to be away. Thankfully the course he wanted and has been accepted for is a 40 minute drive away. However we still have to pay for his car, insurance, etc. OP if you are struggling now, realistically if your ds is so far away, will you financially be able to mange it? What if your dd because of her mental health wants to come home every few weeks. Or if she's not coping and you want to go down and see her?

user1483887562 · 05/02/2018 18:13

why can't she go alone?

TalkinPeace · 05/02/2018 18:15

try RTFT : OP has explained it pretty well

wellhonestly · 05/02/2018 18:25

@ineedsharesintravelodge -

wellhonestly · 05/02/2018 18:29

@ineedsharesintravelodge :

Youth Hostel / room share and travelling alone is absolutely out of the question

... will she not even share a room with you, though? Many Youth Hostels offer twin rooms and you don't have to be a "youth" to go there - you could still go with her. Same with Airbnb. I had in mind she could share a room with you, not strangers.

TalkinPeace · 05/02/2018 18:32

PS I find the competitive I'm more hands off than you deeply unhelpful and mildly irritating.

I took DD to see unis as she was too young to drive and it meant we could do three in one weekend (that are not easily connected by train)

When I was looking at Unis I went by train - but with London as a starting point, all journeys are easier.
Northern Unis I was driven around by an aunt.

At the open days / visits I've been at, LOTS of parents are there

  • on the Cambridge taster day it was really obvious who the bored parents killing five hours were
  • if your child is going to live in a place for several years and maybe the rest of their life it seems sane to go have a look if you can afford the time and the money.

The OP has said that for her DD its the initial leap into the unknown that is the issue.
Who are we to judge her ?

Helpful advice about mitigating the cost is sensible
snide comments are not

goose1964 · 05/02/2018 18:33

You could accompany your daughter to the town she's got the interview I but let her go to the actual interview herself that's what my mum did when I had an interview in Liverpool but I went to Birmingham alone

bruffin · 05/02/2018 18:35

Lemonshark
Dd off to do camp america in June,so has no problems with independence
She is fine on trains but never getting a bus before needed a little support getting her first coach, and went to 3 of her 5 interviews on her own.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 05/02/2018 18:36

My three did a mixture of going with us and going on their own.

DD1 went for an interview for a creative course on her own and was bemused to be patronised by a mum who was there with her son, "But don't your parents care about you?" Apparently her boy just looked like he wanted the floor to swallow him up.

DD2 caught a plane to Dublin with her mate and booked into a youth hostel for an open day. Her biggest worry at 17 was not having ID to get served in a bar.

But kids are all different. Most of them get there in the end.

Rosielily · 05/02/2018 18:39

Looking ahead to when (and I'm sure she will) get in, there are a number of universities which offer additional funding/scholarships/grants etc to children who come from low income families. The Student Finance form has (or certainly had) a specific question asking for permission to disclose parental income to the chosen University. You can also search the University's own website to see what sort of additional grants they may offer. Some offer hardship grants for books/equipment too. Again, search their website. Have you heard of the Sutton Trust? They used to offer bursaries to "disadvantaged" families - I cannot remember the full criteria - but worth Googling.

For your present concerns - I don't know if this has already been suggested, but will your LEA offer any financial support to you and your daughter?

Good luck with it all - it's a mine field Smile